Urban v's the Commentariat

[Steel Icarus]

I used to be a warrior like you.

Not sure if I'm proud or ashamed I got the reference immediately

 

[killer b]

On Finding Out Your Heroes are Monsters (Or: Detoxifying A Culture)

Warren Ellis is someone who could be credibly referred to as a genius. Transmetropolitan — a futuristic riff on Hunter S. Thompson — has never felt more relevant than in the era of Trump and the nationwide Black Lives Matters protests. The Marvel cinematic universe exists in no small part...

www.doctornerdlove.com

this is a good piece - thanks for sharing.

 

[DaveCinzano]

this is a good piece - thanks for sharing.

I'd not come across him before, but it's grimly compelling reading - he's done a few others on other facets of comic industry sexism as well, which he links to at the bottom.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Tangential - LP mentor news:

On Finding Out Your Heroes are Monsters (Or: Detoxifying A Culture)

Warren Ellis is someone who could be credibly referred to as a genius. Transmetropolitan — a futuristic riff on Hunter S. Thompson — has never felt more relevant than in the era of Trump and the nationwide Black Lives Matters protests. The Marvel cinematic universe exists in no small part...

www.doctornerdlove.com

If anyone follows through to BTL comments on news stories about this, strap yourselves in and be prepared for a whole lot of I'm a little confused posts by men trying to understand various particular aspects...

 

[killer b]

I'd not come across him before, but it's grimly compelling reading - he's done a few others on other facets of comic industry sexism as well, which he links to at the bottom.

the most interesting thing about it is how familiar it all is tbh. We all know people just like Ellis, the way he operates is totally... mundane. While people are having to work hard to not understand what he's done wrong, they're able to do that because this is how they and/or their friends also operate. Recognising what's wrong here requires them to recognise it being wrong in their own back yards.

 

[Orang Utan]

Allison Pearson doesn’t see black people as human beings

 

[butchersapron]

Like PG tips chimps. Blimey. That's what casual liberal-racist-prejudice looks like Allison.

 

[agricola]

Allison Pearson doesn’t see black people as human beings
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"full repertoire of virtues and vices"? Does this mean that theres a character on I May Destroy You who is a Telegraph opinion columnist that writes an article calling for people who report domestic incidents to be hounded by the press?

 

[Idris2002]

Oh Laurie.
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[Orang Utan]

Oh Laurie.
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[Steel Icarus]

Idris2002 link borked

 

[FridgeMagnet]

oh no did she suggest that the Blues Brothers was idealised gen X retro fodder

 

[DaveCinzano]

....Deleted that thread because it’s been a long week and I’d prefer not to deal with another heap of harassment on a Sunday afternoon. Sorry to anyone who was enjoying the alt-universe Brooklyn 99 silliness.

 

[Idris2002]

Sorry guys.

 

[Steel Icarus]

I saw some of it, it was an attempt at humour, by the look of it, on her attempt to reconcile her wokeness with her love for frivolous police sitcom Brooklyn 99

 

[Idris2002]

I always said she would have made a better stand-up comic than a journo.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I always said she would have made a better stand-up comic than a journo.

It's not that I didn't trust you, but I did check

 

[Idris2002]

There are not enough facepalms in the world.

 

[Idris2002]

You sad, sad man.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Fact-checkers - the last line of defence in the Commentariat Wars

 

[DaveCinzano]

I once, four years ago, said she would have made a better stand-up comic than a journo.

FTFY

 

[Idris2002]

Somewhere, off in the distance, a dog barked.

 

[Idris2002]

I saw some of it, it was an attempt at humour, by the look of it, on her attempt to reconcile her wokeness with her love for frivolous police sitcom Brooklyn 99

Anyhoo

 

[equationgirl]

Fucks sake, I don't think you need a massive justification to ratify one's love of a police-based sitcom with the knowledge that the police (in pretty much all jurisdictions) is a corrupt institution.

 

[killer b]

For context, there has been some chat on social media recently about how police shows reinforce the idea of cops being good guys etc etc in the popular consciousness - I think that's certainly true and worth thinking about, but I don't think it's a demand for people to justify their TV watching habits to the world.

 

[equationgirl]

For context, there has been some chat on social media recently about how police shows reinforce the idea of cops being good guys etc etc in the popular consciousness - I think that's certainly true and worth thinking about, but I don't think it's a demand for people to justify their TV watching habits to the world.

Law and order is quite good on that front as it did periodically show police corruption.

 

[Orang Utan]

Law and order is quite good on that front as it did periodically show police corruption.

It has been heavily criticised recently:

Dick Wolf packed TV with hero cops. Critics say that’s part of what’s 'killing us.'

"The networks cannot be let off the hook" for supporting Wolf either, says Rashad Robinson, president of racial justice advocacy group Color of Change.

www.latimes.com

 

[Idris2002]

It is probably true that cop shows give the thugs in uniform more credit than they deserve, but I also think that American liberals/radical liberals made a fundamental error when they decided that "politics is downstream from culture".

 

[killer b]

It is probably true that cop shows give the thugs in uniform more credit than they deserve, but I also think that American liberals/radical liberals made a fundamental error when they decided that "politics is downstream from culture".

who actually made that decision though? The statues & racist comedies stuff over here has been an eye opener as far as this kind of thing is concerned, as while radicals have inevitably drawn into the arguments, both of those have really been an institutional response in the first instance.

 

[Idris2002]

who actually made that decision though? The statues & racist comedies stuff over here has been an eye opener as far as this kind of thing is concerned, as while radicals have inevitably drawn into the arguments, both of those have really been an institutional response in the first instance.

Shit rolls downhill.