Urban v's the Commentariat

[killer b]

I just saw this

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

I just saw this View attachment 153536

It’s a shame, I have a feeling those three would be an unstoppable trio in terms of furthering each other’s interests. Woe!

 

[cantsin]

I just saw this View attachment 153536

not sure what Maugham has got to do with 'the left'

 

[killer b]

It's glorious on so many levels. That Maugham imagines himself to be on the left at all brought forth the first snort of derision: that he imagines Bragg, Jones and himself as the perfect round table to sort out a unified way forward brought another.

Then there's the tragic edge of him being blanked by Billy Bragg. It's just beautiful.

 

[Brixton Hatter]

I just saw this View attachment 153536

Priceless.

Maugham is missing a trick though. No women. If he wants the full, diverse range of opinion, he needs to sign up Laurie Penny, Ellie Penny and the EU Supergirl.

 

[ManchesterBeth]

I remember very little about her, except that she let us watch cartoons when we were supposed to be doing our homework, and that she happened to be a Beatles fan. In an act of charity the magnitude of which she will never know, she dubbed a cassette tape for my brother and me with Abbey Road on one side and Let it Be on the other. Never mind that the latter is the worst of the dozen albums they released; for reasons not entirely musical, my brother and I became obsessed with the Beatles.

oh, fuck off.

https://believermag.com/logger/2016-08-10-packing-my-library/

 

[Libertad]

oh, fuck off.

https://believermag.com/logger/2016-08-10-packing-my-library/

Blame Phil Spector for that.

 

[rekil]

BBC One - This Week, 22/11/2018, Lexit: The left's strategy for Brexit

Authentic working class bit at the 1 min 50 sec mark.

 

[ManchesterBeth]

The far right is marching for Brexit. Will the left stand against it? | Michael Chessum

Makes Lindsay German look like the voice of reason. Should have given him an earful when he came to my uni but i was too busy eating tesco sarma.

 

[chilango]

BBC One - This Week, 22/11/2018, Lexit: The left's strategy for Brexit

Authentic working class bit at the 1 min 50 sec mark.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

BBC One - This Week, 22/11/2018, Lexit: The left's strategy for Brexit

Authentic working class bit at the 1 min 50 sec mark.

That was well worth the wait *dying*

 

[DotCommunist]

Deffo needs practise there. Its not quite the two-hander (last seen : zac goldsmith) but is still bad

 

[chilango]

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[cantsin]

straight question : inevitable snarklolz aside ( perfectly legit, it's what we're here for etc ) does anyone have a word to say about Blakely / Novara's line on this, ie : the 'Green New Deal ' element being worked into the case for Lexit ?

 

[chilango]

straight question : inevitable snarklolz aside ( perfectly legit, it's what we're here for etc ) does anyone have a word to say about Blakely / Novara's line on this, ie : the 'Green New Deal ' element being worked into the case for Lexit ?

The whole video - passing reference to nationalisation whilst pretending to sip "a pint" aside - was very pro-business, no threat to capital honest, wasnt it?

 

[cantsin]

The whole video - passing reference to nationalisation whilst pretending to sip "a pint" aside - was very pro-business, no threat to capital honest, wasnt it?

really depends what the reality of " a transformation in the nature of ownership" actually amounted to, ie : how much 'nationalisation' was involved, what the compulsory purchase / compensation structures looked liked, and what the 'overhauled ' ownership structures were going to be going fwd - at one end of the scale, a truly radical approach to all this could be transformational ( on many levels, though undoubtedly not on the scale many of us actually believe possible /desirable ) and wld by, its very nature, constitute a ' threat to capital ' as is it is now, whilst giving us / our descendants some chance of swerving climateaggeddoon.


Arguably, none of the above would be even doable, on paper, from within the EU as is it now is.

 

[ManchesterBeth]

complete betrayal (i mean was it ever there?) of internationalism from our decolonial socialist cambridge professor. With coloured friends like these you don't need white enemies. public fb post so i'm taking liberties. my status underneath.

yes because contemporary fascism doesn't have a multicultural dimension to it does it? I'm fucking unemployed, brown, (from a muslim background actually, are you horrified by the smell of quranic mummification and decay?) disabled, micro-managed by your glorious mental health services and I'm still bothering to try and do my homework. the cambridge professor is telling us uncultured brown londoners to bow to their elders, though.

 

[cantsin]

not sure if JoB qualifies as 'commentariat', but his politics suck...

 

[Quote]

Crusading journalism would be putting pressure on the government to adequately fund the bloody NHS.

But why bother to actually pay people to do a job, just get in a load of volunteers and save some more money. It’s only the health service after all.

“Anyone fancy performing a heart bypass? Yeah, you with the mop...”

 

[FridgeMagnet]

He’s certainly doubling down on the scab thing.



I recognise the name but he’s in the random journo bucket for me.

 

[Artaxerxes]

This man has no apparent knowledge of political history. That headline...



Our politicians once told the truth, now voters are treated as children | Nick Cohen

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

not sure if JoB qualifies as 'commentariat', but his politics suck...

Hey! I visited the Brexit thread with that, mainly to troll the people on there that kept sharing his shite. Walloper.

 

[DotCommunist]

Cohen predicts a crisis of trust in politics coming. As if that ship hadn't sailed some time ago for vast amounts of people. Lets just gloss over his 'sure churchill was a racist, but at least he was straight talking' bit

 

[ManchesterBeth]

This man has no apparent knowledge of political history. That headline...



Our politicians once told the truth, now voters are treated as children | Nick Cohen

just like that cretin Hitchens. never been of any use. I do everything to ignore him, even in he snark department. got a high rep when i used to hang around the council of ex muslims forum and never understood why. Is Namazie still involved with that? don't think so. Is she even still in radical politics? really out of touch with them for all i know the forum could be dead just like the majority of 00s message boards.

 

[cantsin]

Bastano deliberately trolling this thread :

 

[agricola]

Cohen predicts a crisis of trust in politics coming. As if that ship hadn't sailed some time ago for vast amounts of people. Lets just gloss over his 'sure churchill was a racist, but at least he was straight talking' bit

At least we should celebrate Nick Cohen being able to surprise even the people who are familiar with his work.

 

[Theisticle]

just like that cretin Hitchens. never been of any use. I do everything to ignore him, even in he snark department. got a high rep when i used to hang around the council of ex muslims forum and never understood why. Is Namazie still involved with that? don't think so. Is she even still in radical politics? really out of touch with them for all i know the forum could be dead just like the majority of 00s message boards.

Namazie is still involved with the ex-Muslims stuff/One Law for All. I think their forum is dead but they are very active on Twitter (but assume most tweets are written by Namazie).

 

[ManchesterBeth]

think that stuff got way too think tanky tbh. ah well.

 

[killer b]

When reading tweets by Nick Cohen I often find myself thinking got to be a parody, there's no blue tick. But no. It's really him every time.

 

[Threshers_Flail]

Carole Cadwalladr is doing a very good impression of a conspiraloon type at the moment.