Urban v's the Commentariat

[cantsin]

Fuck Duns tbh. But someone has gone through Bastani’s PhD and found, what they claim, is academic plagiarism, which is much worse:

wow, the smoking gun, its the end of Basto / Novara / Alt Left etc etc ...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Smoking kills]

I remember when only right wing loons got into the whole ''prepper" scene.

Then again I also remember when it was only right wing loons who spunked all over the EU, advocated censorship of other peoples' words, shat the bed over Russian conspiracies, obsessed themselves with becoming 'racially-conscious', argued for the separation of cultures, endlessly policed others' sexuality, made arguments like "well a private company can do what they want", and cheered on wars designed to civilise 'backwards' countries.

Guess I'm just getting old.

Stocking up on Italian tomatoes and pasta seems sensible, rather than batshit backwoods crazy, given they could be twice the price this time next year.

 

[Brainaddict]

Not impressed with Olusoga's wriggling here I dislike the link to empire, but it felt wrong to turn down an OBE | David Olusoga

Not a good look for someone who built a career on anti-colonial commentary. And the fact that he has no response except to take the piss out of Picketty's - actually totally reasonable - reason for turning down an honour marks him as just a bit too impressed with accolades from social superiors.

 

[TruXta]

Bastani is a total plum but the criticisms of his PhD are piss weak and are largely more revealing of the critics' complete ignorance of social science qualitative research methods. Some of them were calling shenanigans on the basis of not knowing what a DPhil is.

Plagiarism and failing to honestly reflect on one's involvement in the events under scrutiny of one's own PhD are not in any way part of legitimate research methods. Does that really need spelling out?

 

[killer b]

Shut up about bastanis Phd. Jesus Christ.

 

[chilango]

Shut up about bastanis Phd. Jesus Christ.

Although it's reflecting the level of "commentary" that is appearing on this thread it's not exactly a step forward in our part, is it?

 

[TruXta]

Shut up about bastanis Phd. Jesus Christ.

Fuck off with thread policing.

 

[killer b]

It's been 90% of the content on politics twitter for a week now, and it's been crushingly boring for six days and 23 hours of that. I dunno what you want urban to be, but 'twitter, one week later' isn't it.

 

[TruXta]

It's been 90% of the content on politics twitter for a week now, and it's been crushingly boring for six days and 23 hours of that. I dunno what you want urban to be, but 'twitter, one week later' isn't it.

Not everyone is on twitter.

 

[cantsin]

Plagiarism and failing to honestly reflect on one's involvement in the events under scrutiny of one's own PhD are not in any way part of legitimate research methods. Does that really need spelling out?

Sounds like the weak plagiarism claims by the attention deperate Lightman have already been debunked.

Next. ( zzzzzzzz )

 

[TruXta]

Sounds like the weak plagiarism claims by the attention deperate Lightman have already been debunked.

Next. ( zzzzzzzz )

Fair enough. What I saw in that tweet thread was shoddy if true though. The other stuff would be a lot more damning if true.

 

[Rob Ray]

Tbh I don't care if Bastani had his entire doctorate written for him by James Butler, it's not like he gets to hold it up for a free pass when he's been talking shite.

 

[TruXta]

Tbh I don't care if Bastani had his entire doctorate written for him by James Butler, it's not like he gets to hold it up for a free pass when he's been talking shite.

No, but if he cheated on his PhD it helps establish a pattern.

 

[killer b]

a pattern of who gives a fuck.

 

[Rob Ray]

What of not always researching his topics properly and sometimes being sloppy with his referencing? I could have told you that from reading his Twitter stream, an investigative probe of his academic output is not required. I mean ffs the man does a regular hot take vlog called Tyskie Sour, it's not like he's short on examples of bullshittery.

 

[brogdale]

What's this?
Journalists lying?

 

[TruXta]

Oh well.

 

[cantsin]

What of not always researching his topics properly and sometimes being sloppy with his referencing? I could have told you that from reading his Twitter stream, an investigative probe of his academic output is not required. I mean ffs the man does a regular hot take vlog called Tyskie Sour, it's not like he's short on examples of bullshittery.

man, you heavyweights have his card properly marked ...

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Get off Twitter

 

[killer b]

I dunno, it's sometimes pretty useful when it's not all clogged up with bastani phd and sausage roll chat.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I used to think *I* was an obsessive weirdo who fixated on niche subcultural nonsense before I joined twitter, so it's been quite reassuring.

 

[TruXta]

I used to think *I* was an obsessive weirdo who fixated on niche subcultural nonsense before I joined twitter, so it's been quite reassuring.

So job done, time to delete it?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

So job done, time to delete it?

no no, I need constant reassurance

(and there are other uses for it too)

 

[Rob Ray]

man, you heavyweights have his card properly marked ...

I'm no heavyweight ta, but you don't usually need to be to spot when Aaron's hot-taking is out-running his actual knowledge of a subject.

 

[rekil]

PD should get some I'm Literally A PhD Truther tshirts out before this twoutrage is displaced by the next one.

 

[bellaozzydog]

I’m not sure I can face twitter anymore.

The Rachel Riley think has me utterly baffled.

I’m starting to think everyone is a shitbag

What’s the U.K. numbers on twitter and what’s the population, I need a % figure not on twitter I can squeeze a bit of hope out of

 

[killer b]

I think there's about seven people on there. fuck all really, but everyone else is on facebook sharing nazi memes.

 

[bellaozzydog]

I think there's about seven people on there. fuck all really, but everyone else is on facebook sharing nazi memes.

You are not helping

 

[DotCommunist]

The Latest UK Social Media Statistics for 2018 - Avocado Social

so 12 mill and change from 66.02 mill population overall. And a UK 2017 electorate number is 47,932,500.

 

[bellaozzydog]

I just had a great chat with a Norwegian. Loves his family, loves Norway, socialist system is amazing, everyone is wonderful, life is great. But he’s still not happy with brown skinned immigrants and the jobless

KILL ME NOW