Urban v's the Commentariat

[frogwoman]

cause it's complicated. innit.

I know i have serious issues with the expectations of gendered behavior, but its about the difference in being a female who does not feel comfortable with femininity, and not identifying as female. I know i got a lot more comfy with being female once I understood that I didn't have to behave according to someone else's diktat on what was acceptable female behavior. but although i don't really understand jack's dicussion, their explanation sure as hell sounds a lot different to my experiences. which is why i reckon the terfs have it well wrong on trans identities.



you clearly have the literacy requirements.....

Yeah agreed. I cant say ive ever felt like the way they describe at all. It was a really interesting read tbh

 

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Yeah agreed. I cant say ive ever felt like the way they describe at all. It was a really interesting read tbh

absolutely. although i don't think i'll ever stop finding it all a little confusing.

 

[frogwoman]

And the way terfs (for want of a better word) describe the current day situation of womanhood and 'how it is for all women' is completely alien to me too tbh.

 

[equationgirl]

And the way terfs (for want of a better word) describe the current day situation of womanhood and 'how it is for all women' is completely alien to me too tbh.

I don't fit into the typical 'heels and make up' femininity box either, and the way terfs speak about womanhood is anathema to me. I don't recognise what I live every day in their descriptions.

 

[frogwoman]

I don't fit into the typical 'heels and make up' femininity box either, and the way terfs speak about womanhood is anathema to me. I don't recognise what I live every day in their descriptions.

Like according to some of them you would think that all women were kept permanently pregnant and chained to a kitchen. Im not denying it is that bad for some people, but every woman? Nah

 

[frogwoman]

I saw one ages ago that said that girls wearing high heels was just as bad as foot binding i dont wear high heels and they are bad for you, but its nowhere near the universally accepted mutilationary practice foot binding was in china ffs!

 

[equationgirl]

I saw one ages ago that said that girls wearing high heels was just as bad as foot binding i dont wear high heels and they are bad for you, but its nowhere near the universally accepted mutilationary practice foot binding was in china ffs!

Yeah, there seems to a lot of hysterical handwaving and over extrapolation.

 

[J Ed]

 

[Artaxerxes]

Not been hanging around our politicians much then?

 

[rekil]

Laurie's attitude to the refugee crisis before and after it became clickworthy.

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From that same NS article, this amazing lie is still there.

There is a reason that Angela Merkel’s response, in June, to a demonstration where the bodies of drowned migrants were buried on the front lawn of the Bundestag was stony silence. All of this has happened before. All of this, in fact, is precisely what the European Union was established to prevent.

James Bloodworth blocked loads of people who questioned his made up stuff about Cubans in Syria and his general shitness. That'll do it James.

 

[J Ed]

James Bloodworth is one of the most dishonest members of the commentariat, he is willing to say absolutely anything, which is probably why his star is rising so quickly

 

[rekil]

...

 

[butchersapron]

They Shat on her head and lit it afire.

 

[butchersapron]

Respect to molly, she knew the score.

 

[DrRingDing]

I've heard some of Owen Jones's sexual antics.

Sounds rather cold.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Snowman fetish?

 

[Bakunin]

Women can’t have it all – because the game is rigged

 

[equationgirl]

Women can’t have it all – because the game is rigged

drivel. Utterly obvious and unoriginal. Banal. I'm going to stop before I end up posting a very long rant about the article's poor quality. her writing was not so universally and repeatedly substance free before Harvard - if this is the quality of writing one can aspire post-harvard then I am glad I will never get to go.

It's a shame really, the subject itself opens up interesting avenues for discussion. There's no need for the article to be quite so flimsy- she doesn't even make the point that the main reason some married men don't have to worry about work life balance is down to their spouse taking care of the 'wife work', which can include chores, cooking, shopping for food, paying bills, childcare, school runs, general chauffeur services, arranging appointments, remembering family birthdays and so on.

 

[Bakunin]

drivel. Utterly obvious and unoriginal. Banal. I'm going to stop before I end up posting a very long rant about the article's poor quality. her writing was not so universally and repeatedly substance free before Harvard - if this is the quality of writing one can aspire post-harvard then I am glad I will never get to go.

It's a shame really, the subject itself opens up interesting avenues for discussion. There's no need for the article to be quite so flimsy- she doesn't even make the point that the main reason some married men don't have to worry about work life balance is down to their spouse taking care of the 'wife work', which can include chores, cooking, shopping for food, paying bills, childcare, school runs, general chauffeur services, arranging appointments, remembering family birthdays and so on.

Somewhat sad that somebody from Harvard with years of experience still manages to take potentially interesting issue and reduce it to empty platitudes and buzzword bingo. Still, another day another byline.

 

[eoin_k]

Not sure that Molly has anything to do with that book before people get carried away slagging it off... Looks like she is just doing a gig at a book launch for Kate Evans.

Not sure if Kate deserves to be on a thread reserved for the Commentariat; I've always had the sense that she lived her politics fairly honestly.

 

[J Ed]

Billy Bragg defends Guardian's anti-Corbyn hysteria Billy Bragg on the Guardian's coverage of Jeremy Corbyn (with image, tweets) · huseyinkishi

 

[Belushi]

Bragg can fuck right off.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Bragg can fuck right off.

He's just such a self-satisfied tool isn't he. I don't care about his politics tbh, he's a total bellend regardless.

 

[J Ed]

He has all the political principles of a BUPA HR Manager

 

[Belushi]

He's just such a self-satisfied tool isn't he. I don't care about his politics tbh, he's a total bellend regardless.

I always thought he was a bit of a knob but the south bank skaters business really turned me against him.

 

[DaveCinzano]

He has all the political principles of a BUPA HR Manager

Impeccable

 

[DaveCinzano]

Billy Bragg defends Guardian's anti-Corbyn hysteria Billy Bragg on the Guardian's coverage of Jeremy Corbyn (with image, tweets) · huseyinkishi

A millionaire LibDem would definitely be my first port of call when seeking an opinion on the pro-capital bias of a global media brand

 

[Idris2002]

I still like In Our Time, though.

 

[andysays]

I still like In Our Time, though.

Not sure which song you're referring to there

Anyway, this one was written about the Thatcher govt, but could have easily been applied to the Blair govt with just a few small changes, and "the liberal (with a small l) weeping in front of the TV" could now be Billy himself wringing his hands on his twitter feed

 

[Idris2002]

Not sure which song you're referring to there