Urban v's the Commentariat

[ViolentPanda]

Japanese author Ayako Sono calls for racial segregation.



Tough one for the PD identity politics kommando. Is it racist and sexist to be not very supportive of a woman of colour's pro-apartheid views?

Surely her expression of Galtonesque views disqualifies her from her status as a "person of colour" being taken into consideration?
Perhaps we should do the comrade the service of arranging a holiday for her at a Proletarian Democracy Leisure and Political Re-education Facility?

 

[andysays]

Surely her expression of Galtonesque views disqualifies her from her status as a "person of colour" being taken into consideration?
Perhaps we should do the comrade the service of arranging a holiday for her at a Proletarian Democracy Leisure and Political Re-education Facility?

In fact, comrades should investigate whether the person in question self-identfies as a POC. Given her pro-apartheid views, I suspect she might not take too kindly to having that label put upon her by others.

copliker - Check your stereotypical labelling priv...

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

do you think the author of the Chronicles of Gor hid behind a fake name for purposes of differentiation

Could be, or it could be because of shame or whatever but it's hardly the same is it? Gor is not just a straight forward fantasy/scifi thing

 

[Nigel Irritable]

do you think the author of the Chronicles of Gor hid behind a fake name for purposes of differentiation

No, he hid behind a fake name because he was writing creepy porn.

It's standard practice for writers who churn out different types of genre novels to adopt different pseudonyms for each type even if none of their output is "respectable" and they have no credibility to tarnish. It is, as Spanky Longhorn pointed out, a marketing thing.

 

[equationgirl]

Surely her expression of Galtonesque views disqualifies her from her status as a "person of colour" being taken into consideration?
Perhaps we should do the comrade the service of arranging a holiday for her at a Proletarian Democracy Leisure and Political Re-education Facility?

Which reminds me, where are we having it this year?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Which reminds me, where are we having it this year?

The straw poll has narrowed it down to Bognor or Balatter. The committee will vote in due course, and of course make the correct decision, comrade.

 

[equationgirl]

The straw poll has narrowed it down to Bognor or Balatter. The committee will vote in due course, and of course make the correct decision, comrade.

PolPhail was taken off the table then?

 

[ViolentPanda]

PolPhail was taken off the table then?

Yep. Too luxurious. We want to exercise minds and bodies, not coddle them with roofs!

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Yep. Too luxurious. We want to exercise minds and bodies, not coddle them with roofs!

http://irishworkhousecentre.ie

 

[andysays]

The straw poll has narrowed it down to Bognor or Balatter. The committee will vote in due course, and of course make the correct decision, comrade.

So was Comrade Onket's ill-fated thread actually an attempt to arrange details of a recce on behalf of the Leisure and Political Re-education Committee?

And in banning him, Editor and the rest of the moderators have inadvertantly outted themselves as a counter-revolutionary cabal in our midst?

Shit's getting serious

 

[ViolentPanda]

So was Comrade Onket's ill-fated thread actually an attempt to arrange details of a recce on behalf of the Leisure and Political Re-education Committee?

And in banning him, Editor and the rest of the moderators have inadvertantly outted themselves as a counter-revolutionary cabal in our midst?

Shit's getting serious

Your analysis is correct, comrade.
The counter-revolutionary cabal and their fellow-travellers have had their cards marked, though, and shall enjoy the hospitality of our Leisure Facility soon enough (hums "Holiday in Cambodia" by The Dead Kennedys to self)!

 

[captainmission]

without reading anything but those quotes actually my experience is similar. as a massive generalisation!

It's a fine point about misogyny in sci-fi community. It also engages in behaviour she showed discomfort with a few paragraphs previous.

Also the question of being an expert- Penny's clearly a sci-fi fan. Her co-expert tells her twitter a week before the piece is published she's going to try and read some sci-fi books this month and asks for recommendations. But both come from elite universities and exist in the same bubble as the editor - so seemingly can be experts whatever they're commissioned to write about.

 

[Theisticle]

Jesus wept. Where to even begin with Bloodworth's terrorism analysis?

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...th-and-tragedy-unwavering-faith-10049972.html

 

[seventh bullet]

As the great historian of Stalinism Robert Conquest puts it

lol.

 

[Theisticle]

Considering some of the board have pointed out Bloodworth's past plagiarism this is quite suspect.

Bloodworth: I'm unsure who first said it, but a motto we might adopt is to "follow those that seek the truth and run from those who claim to have found it".

It's a famous quote that does not appear to often but it is often attributed to Vaclav Havel. Not that Bloodworth is interested in that.

 

[Idris2002]

Laurie reviews 50 Shades of Grey:

http://laurie-penny.com/fifty-shades-of-socialist-feminism/

 

[Greebo]

Laurie reviews 50 Shades of Grey <snip>

An amusing enough little number, but entirely predictable.

 

[Idris2002]

An amusing enough little number, but entirely predictable.

Were you amused by its presumption?

 

[Greebo]

Were you amused by its presumption?

By the presumption of her wanting to be paid for it, yes.

 

[Bakunin]

By the presumption of her wanting to be paid for it, yes.

Paid? For that?

 

[Idris2002]

Paid? For that?

If only she would use her powers for good and not for evil.

 

[ViolentPanda]

lol.

Caused me a bit of a "what the actual fuck?" moment too!

 

[Greebo]

If only she would use her powers for good and not for evil.

Or, with more or less the same outcome, stop using her so-called powers at all.

 

[frogwoman]

I see the terf wars have started again ffs

 

[frogwoman]

http://timesonline.typepad.com/dons_life/2015/02/no-platforming-1.html

Thoughts on this anyone? At the risk of being thought of as a commentariat type i agreed with a lot of it tbh. Although i do think that there should be no platform for fash obviously.

 

[krink]

http://timesonline.typepad.com/dons_life/2015/02/no-platforming-1.html

Thoughts on this anyone? At the risk of being thought of as a commentariat type i agreed with a lot of it tbh. Although i do think that there should be no platform for fash obviously.

404 page not found?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

http://timesonline.typepad.com/dons_life/2015/02/no-platforming-1.html

Thoughts on this anyone? At the risk of being thought of as a commentariat type i agreed with a lot of it tbh. Although i do think that there should be no platform for fash obviously.

I've not been following the events which lead up to that piece, but writing a letter to the Guardian demanding Germaine Greer shouldn't speak at Cambridge University is very different from a mass mobilisation preventing fascists from holding an election rally in a school.

I don't really give a shit where Germaine Greer speaks as I am yet to be convinced that she poses a similar threat to organised fascist gangs.

 

[frogwoman]

I've not been following the events which lead up to that piece, but writing a letter to the Guardian demanding Germaine Greer shouldn't speak at Cambridge University is very different from a mass mobilisation preventing fascists from holding an election rally in a school.

I don't really give a shit where Germaine Greer speaks as I am yet to be convinced that she poses a similar threat to organised fascist gangs.

Indeed.

 

[frogwoman]

404 page not found?

Works fine for me...

 

[frogwoman]

I've not been following the events which lead up to that piece, but writing a letter to the Guardian demanding Germaine Greer shouldn't speak at Cambridge University is very different from a mass mobilisation preventing fascists from holding an election rally in a school.

I don't really give a shit where Germaine Greer speaks as I am yet to be convinced that she poses a similar threat to organised fascist gangs.

Well yea its kind of missing the point behind no platform. And I dont like the way that this stuff is being used to, for example, shut up critics of the sex industry as someone who's done a bit of sex trafficking prevention work myself.