Urban v's the Commentariat

[DotCommunist]

if zombies are anything, they arean anti-working class metaphor. Shuffling mindless consuming hordes who once out of control eat the intelligentsia (brainz) and destroy society.

 

[frogwoman]

How do these people survive in the real world?

 

[emanymton]

How is talking about zombies ableist? And disabled people do come to protests, and there are any number of reasons why someone might not be able to which are nothing to do with disability.

In my case, for example, laziness. Although I do sometimes think of starting a campaign to get laziness recognised as a disability, but frankly I can't be arsed.

 

[Bun]

How do these people survive in the real world?

Take your reality fascism elsewhere, Frogwoman! I'm calling you OUT!

 

[eatmorecheese]

Essentially, this wave of intersectionality has created a wealth of ego-driven cliques that mirror the racism, colonialism and Orientalism they claim to hate by bifurcating groups along skin colour - they treat white people as a homogenised block without realising the irony of mirroring the oppression they oppose.

Park, like Crabapple take radical positions but use it as a platform for personal brand-building online. However, Park's rhetoric is more likely to alienate people in the real world, especially those who might pay money to listen to some naive 23-year-old who probably read one book on critical race theory.

Yes, racism exists across the fabric of our society, but the idea that Colbert was promoted to spite Park is utterly hilarious. In their narrow view of oppression there are other factors as to why he got the job.

Meaningful activism exists outside of social media, yes, there are obvious benefits for those who are disabled or lack the finances to attend regular meetings or protests. I view it more of a jumping off point. Often, in these sorts of imagined Twitter events of oppression, the usual voices gang up and play purity points with 'being a good ally.'

A load of self-important online bollocks. Despite the rhetoric, those who speak so loudly of oppression are those who will always speak from a position of wealth. Why do they never speak of class? Because many reaped the benefits of a private education and the wealth of lassez-faire capitalism.

Their oppression is only convenient to a point.

Yep, this.

There's a line in a VS Naipaul novel (I forget which one) that says that one can only sing sweet songs of the injustice of oppression when one expects and receives justice most of the time.

Oh, and it's never structural advantages, is it? It's always "luck" and "good choices", fitting the neoliberal outlook like a glove. Class distinction muddies the water and fucks with the grid of oppression, and we can't have that.

 

[J Ed]

How is talking about zombies ableist? And disabled people do come to protests, and there are any number of reasons why someone might not be able to which are nothing to do with disability.

if zombies are anything, they arean anti-working class metaphor. Shuffling mindless consuming hordes who once out of control eat the intelligentsia (brainz) and destroy society.

Personally if I was going for the wingnut intersectionalista angle on zombies I would go for cultural appropriation of Haitian folklore...

 

[Dogsauce]

How do these people survive in the real world?

Trust funds, I'm guessing, though I'm sure questioning that would in itself be some kind of oppression.

 

[DotCommunist]

Personally if I was going for the wingnut intersectionalista angle on zombies I would go for cultural appropriation of Haitian folklore...

foklore? plenty of evidence to suggest that people had in the past been fed powerful brain damaging potions by shaman/witchdoctors and then used as zombie slaves. Your cultural imperialistic thinking again!back of the stack.

 

[chilango]

How do these people survive in the real world?

They don't, do they?

 

[DaveCinzano]

I don't understand how they are able to survive on a day to day basis.

Easily - because after a couple of years of role-playing this sort of balloon debate politics, many of these people will settle in to their well-remunerated, class-destined management careers.

 

[butchersapron]

Easily - because after a couple of years of role-playing this sort of balloon debate politics, many of these people will settle in to their well-remunerated, class-destined management careers.

Yep, and they will take their managerial bossy stuff with them into the world of work. Oh what a boon for those under them. And there will be many.

 

[Belushi]

Posh school > Oxbridge or Expensive Liberal Arts College > Career in the small incestuous world of the Liberal commentariat thanks to connections

 

[Belushi]

It also explains the 'calling out' and demands to 'be an ally' - it's the kind of juvenile bollocks that you should grow out of once you leave school.

 

[J Ed]

Yep, and they will take their managerial bossy stuff with them into the world of work. Oh what a boon for those under them. And there will be many.

Easily - because after a couple of years of role-playing this sort of balloon debate politics, many of these people will settle in to their well-remunerated, class-destined management careers.

So a lot of this intersectional stuff is learnt behaviour from mummy and daddy who work as managers? It would explain a lot, I put this down mostly to the sort of arrogance that comes with a private education.

 

[frogwoman]

Yep, and they will take their managerial bossy stuff with them into the world of work. Oh what a boon for those under them. And there will be many.

I'M IN CHARGE HERE!

 

[butchersapron]

No no no, with your mixed relationships, sports clubs, education work and leisure and easy non-racist life you're doing it all wrong!

 

[butchersapron]

I'M IN CHARGE HERE!

*shivers down the spine*

 

[DotCommunist]

Posh school > Oxbridge or Expensive Liberal Arts College > Career in the small incestuous world of the Liberal commentariat thanks to connections

or a damascene volte-face into Mel Philips

 

[butchersapron]

I do think they're people outside of society desperately trying to catch up with the norms via massive guilt projection.

 

[J Ed]

or a damascene volte-face into Mel Philips

I think it's only a matter of time before this happens a lot here. The Suey Park/Michelle Malkin thing is so obviously something that could happen here, you can already see it with the likes of Crabapple commenting on Venezuela.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I'M IN CHARGE HERE!

I will admit to have just spent precious minutes searching for that Clare Solomon video, even though she doesn't quite fit the profile

 

[butchersapron]

or a damascene volte-face into Mel Philips

See, i don't think that will happen - it takes commitment to have mel phillips type views whereas to these people their politics is lightly worn. Penny's superficiality inures her from turning into Phillips.

 

[J Ed]

See i don't thin that will happen - it takes commitment to mel phillips type views whereas to these people their politics is lightly worn. Penny's superficiality inures her from turning into Phillips.

 

[butchersapron]

She's more Deborah Mitford than Nancy Mitford.

 

[DotCommunist]

on the 'slacktavism is an ableist term' its quite clearly a neologism/portmanteau/made up word in which the first part of the term comes from 'slacker'- linguistically on about the whole 'slacker culture' thing in the US indie scene that was talked about in terms of being a real 'thing', around Nirvana/Kevin Smith/Clerks/Seattle scene times.

At least thats how I read it.

and theres the rub. You end up on an etymology hunt that bears no relevance to the point in hand just to defend yourself agains being IDS

 

[Theisticle]

All this online intersectionality leads us to this:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/aasiddiqi/do-you-benefit-from-white-supremacy

Ugh.

 

[rekil]

The same people also argued that talking about zombies was ableist.

Need screenies please.

 

[butchersapron]

Taibbi crosses picket lines btw.

 

[Pickman's model]

Taibbi crosses picket lines btw.

this is the first time i have ever heard of him and presents him in a poor light.

 

[equationgirl]

That post implies you can't be a feminist and like clothes & makeup, which is plain wrong.

It also plays into feminists being 'hellwraiths' which is wrong.

ffs.