Urban v's the Commentariat

[butchersapron]

I cant see anything about who actually made the quote, its just repeated in all the press stories (tho not the one you actually linked to!)

Here.

 

[rekil]

Quality twittering.

 

[belboid]

Here.

she's not exactly important or central to anything tho

 

[equationgirl]

There's a big thread on this on the Charlie Stross blog (link to follow) and I think it's a bit more complicated than that. SF fandom appears to be trying to 'clean house' where inappropriate behaviour is concerned (behaviour like that of the superannuated 60s author who thinks he can grope anyone female, for example).

They also seem to have formed the impression that Ross (who apparently is a genuine sci-fi fan) is the type whose humour tends to involve the personalised attack that would be taken for bullying in other contexts. As I only know Ross from his chat show host persona I've no idea if that's true or not. My guess, though, is that they may have overreacted, but it's a bit more to it than just eejits thinking that barring people on skin colour and gender makes them progressive heroes.

Judging by the comments on CS' blog post, there are still some seriously moronic people in that subculture:

http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2014/03/the-latest-hugo-awards-storm.html

Splundig Vur Thrigg.

Please can you not use moronic? Thanks.

 

[chilango]

Spotted on my twitter feed this morning someone describing themselves as "the Owen Jones of Reading politics".

 

[cesare]

Jehovah Jehovah

 

[Pickman's model]

Jehovah Jehovah

drop one keep one >> that way

 

[Pickman's model]

Spotted on my twitter feed this morning someone describing themselves as "the Owen Jones of Reading politics".

reading as in looking at books or reading as in west of london?

 

[frogwoman]

Spotted on my twitter feed this morning someone describing themselves as "the Owen Jones of Reading politics".

wtf does that mean. and why is this a good thing

 

[Pickman's model]

wtf does that mean. and why is this a good thing

it's random words moulded into a sentence as meat is into a sausage.

 

[cesare]

drop one keep one >> that way

It's my impersonation of Idris.

 

[Pickman's model]

Spotted on my twitter feed this morning someone describing themselves as "the Owen Jones of Reading politics".

https://twitter.com/WillCross61

 

[frogwoman]

it's random words moulded into a sentence as meat is into a sausage.

to be fair i think that whenever i read a lot of commentariat writing - it's just putting random words together and hoping they'll make sense

 

[frogwoman]

not that different to most of my posts

 

[Idris2002]

It's my impersonation of Idris.

You're only making it worse for yourself.

 

[Pickman's model]

You're only making it worse for yourself.

is that your impression of cesare?

 

[cesare]

You're only making it worse for yourself.

I'm warning you.

 

[frogwoman]

you need some gifs to do a proper impression

 

[cesare]

is that your impression of cesare?

We are all Matthias now

 

[Pickman's model]

you need some gifs to do a proper impression

Badgers

 

[Idris2002]

 

[chilango]

https://twitter.com/WillCross61

That's the one.

 

[Theisticle]

The most Laurie Penny article ever (featuring Spain).

http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...ortion-not-about-morality-its-about-austerity

 

[FridgeMagnet]

The most Laurie Penny article ever (featuring Spain).

http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...ortion-not-about-morality-its-about-austerity

And that's a bad article because why?

 

[Casually Red]

Isn't Abby Martin that presenter for RT that Casually Red luuuuuuurves?

I dont love her. I would though

 

[rekil]

To say that women’s right to decide what happens to their own bodies has been used as a political football is accurate only if one thinks back to those playground days when the boys who had the football routinely trampled over the entire yard, ruining everyone else’s games.

Didn't happen. Especially not in Brighton College with its state of the art sporting facilities.

Is Laurie accusing the PP of using identity politics to distract attention from proper hard issues?

 

[butchersapron]

I wonder what grounds for sports playage Brighton college have? I reckon it ain't one fucking yard.

 

[rekil]

Brighton College cricket hoolies after shooing the 'geeks' off the playground.

If you ever find yourself at a party full of “mainstream” literary types and you confess to having not encountered a book that everyone else considers vital, you may well be met by shocked stares. “Call yourself a reader when you haven’t read Ulysses, or Lolita?”

Another any old shit will do article, another posh party mention, another chance to roll out the smartest girl in a smart school claim and cadge approval from the people who matter. Firstly Laurie, you ARE "mainstream", none more so. Secondly, the first line. Made up. Though since the media and publishing industries are dominated by private school oxbridge filth it wouldn't be all that surprising would it.

 

[J Ed]

There are schools with cricket pavilions... wow.

 

[el-ahrairah]

sci-fi and fantasy has been pretty mainstream throughout my life. i mean, i like a fair bit of sci-fi and fantasy, if it's well written and not libertarian crap, but to pretend that suddenly the internet has made it mainstream is absolute bollocks and the sort of nonsense that implies that some sort of underground purity has been taken away from people who like to dress as stormtroopers. YOUR TASTES DO NOT MAKE YOU AN OPPRESSED MINORITY WHOSE CULTURE HAS BEEN PLUNDERED.