Urban v's the Commentariat

[SpineyNorman]

LOL

I assume she takes the same approach when she's talking about the tea party then.

 

[rekil]

In my SU elections the one "intersectionalist" running for the Equality & Diversity position is also the only able-bodied, white person. I'm pretty sure, to use a phrase so beloved of twitter intersectionalists, she should "sit the fuck down and learn" from those running against her. But then how would she get that nice job in the Labour Party after.

This prompted me to stick this vid up. Noam Titelman of the Chile student movement talking about the danger of falling into the trap of focusing on individual issues at the expense of attacking structural issues. It would've been nice if he'd gone into a bit more detail about how the word 'activism' is suspicious. He's jewish and hispanic but is that enough to save him from the wrath of the private school oxbridge intersectionalistas?

Spoiler

 

[DaveCinzano]

This prompted me to stick this vid up. Noam Titelman of the Chile student movement talking about the danger of falling into the trap of focusing on individual issues at the expense of attacking structural issues. It would've been nice if he'd gone into a bit more detail about how the word 'activism' is suspicious. He's jewish and hispanic but is that enough to save him from the wrath of the private school oxbridge intersectionalistas?

Spoiler

Noam Titelman?

NO, I'M ENTITLED MAN more like

 

[Theisticle]

What the heck is going on?





Long thread read.

 

[el-ahrairah]

some stupid twitter bullshit about whose the most oppressed.

 

[barney_pig]

A friend commented on some billy Bragg bollox about masculinity so it appeared on my Facebook. Ugh!

 

[equationgirl]

some stupid twitter bullshit about whose the most oppressed.

They should check the PD wheel of oppression, then they'd know for sure.

Oppression isn't some competition.

 

[Pickman's model]

A friend commented on some billy Bragg bollox about masculinity so it appeared on my Facebook. Ugh!

first world problems >>>

 

[barney_pig]

Bragg is engaging with me, apparently, he is not a whore as he wasn't paid to shill for the lib dems, or for soth bank. It's ok cos he believes!

 

[Nigel Irritable]

What the heck is going on?





Long thread read.

The part when fellow Urban75 poster Sam Ambreen informs Penny that yes, she should just quietly listen when she's called a turd, a whore and a vulture, is my favourite bit of the row. Well apart from LP ending up apologising for being offended.

The hazards of being a feminist in the age of privilege mongering.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Brilliant this is why it is so genius they are going to alienate themselves

 

[Pickman's model]

Bragg is engaging with me, apparently, he is not a whore as he wasn't paid to shill for the lib dems, or for soth bank. It's ok cos he believes!

not getting paid makes him a mug

 

[barney_pig]

Brilliant this is why it is so genius they are going to alienate themselves

Pop (journalism) will eat itself

 

[equationgirl]

The part when fellow Urban75 poster Sam Ambreen informs Penny that yes, she should just quietly listen when she's called a turd, a whore and a vulture, is my favourite bit of the row. Well apart from LP ending up apologising for being offended.

The hazards of being a feminist in the age of privilege mongering.

Intersectionalism really does defy logic.

 

[Theisticle]

LOL, I think they are pissed that Penny does not condemn Helen Lewis for being poor at intersectionality and by virtue, she is culpable for the bullying Red Light Voice gets from 'cronies' of Lewis on Twitter for daring to criticise Lewis.

Can we add that to the wheel of oppression?

 

[SpineyNorman]

Does constipation count as an oppression?

 

[frogwoman]

Who's Lena Dunham? And why is she a racist?

 

[el-ahrairah]

imagine if we all stopped looking at twitter. imagine if the only people reading twitter were idiots like that. imagine how much work we could get done whilst they were arguing about who is the biggest racist?

 

[rekil]

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Does constipation count as an oppression?

Or piles?

 

[SpineyNorman]

Who's Lena Dunham? And why is she a racist?

where's that from?

 

[SpineyNorman]

.

Or piles?

Both piles and constipation - my arse oppressions are intersecting in a very painful way today!

 

[rekil]

Both piles and constipation - my arse oppressions are intersecting in a very painful way today!

Maybe they can be included on the disability 'axis'.

 

[barney_pig]

Both piles and constipation - my arse oppressions are intersecting in a very painful way today!

Colofac worked well for both for me

 

[caleb]

Hahaha, Ross Wolfe getting roped in on that, as part of the "same ilk" as Helen Lewis and Laurie Penny

Ross' worst crime was questioning whether Flavia is a woman of colour. Flavia is pretty damn pasty, if anyone cares to have a look, but apparently her hair is unlike the hair of any white woman, so she counts as a "WoC" - her own words, basically.

 

[caleb]

Fucking great when Sam Ambreen praised Laurie Penny for being willing to "listen and learn" or something when she's getting vile abuse. And Laurie kept saying she'd just "listen and learn"... no defiance, no questioning. It's a sad state of affairs, really.

 

[DaveCinzano]

This intersectional one-upsies is all fun and games until you're all stuck in some freezing cold, remote mountain lodge, stabbing and strangling each other for tweeting inadequate self-critiques

 

[frogwoman]

Have we had an intersectional analysis of Ukraine yet?

'Hi can you help, I just got beaten up by Ukrainian fash for being a Jew'
'I'm sorry! Why don't you fuck off with your white tears, why would you think that we should help you, and by the way stop being microaggressive'
'What does that mean, my English isn't very good'
'It isn't my fault I understand the jargon, go and read tumblr or something'
'Ok, but the fash have just taken over my entire town, and I don't know what to do'
'The fash have taken over your whole town?? that's like what I have to go through on Twitter EVERY DAY'
'My neighbour just got told to get out because he's gay'
'All these cis white dudes and their problems. What do you think about Richard Seymour?'
'I'm sorry who is this person?'
'You don't even know, that shows how little you care about creating a safe space, I bet you don't even notice if Helen Lewis posts something on the new statesman website'
'I haven't got any food! And the buses have all stopped running'
'You see, you aren't even thinking about your cis white privilege, someone just posted about race play on my Facebook and didn't even put a trigger warning, I feel so invalidated, you couldn't possibly understand'
'Have you been listening to a single word I've been saying?? I've got to try and stop fash marching past our street, I've got to go, it was a total waste of time to ask you anything'
'You racist!'

 

[Brechin Sprout]

not getting paid makes him a mug

Cos doing anything for nothing is a mug's game? Have you got any friends. How much do you charge them? What's the rate for standing at a barricade?

 

[Pickman's model]

Cos doing anything for nothing is a mug's game? Have you got any friends. How much do you charge them? What's the rate for standing at a barricade?

standing on the barricades and being clegg's patsy two different things

 

[caleb]

The more I think about what went down between Flavia Dzodan and Penny, etc. the angrier I get. What a fucking mental state of affairs where shouting (sexist) abuse at women is good feminism, but objecting to receiving that abuse makes you a racist.

Is there an end to all this?