Urban v's the Commentariat

[DaveCinzano]

Flavia Dzodan is...

...a writer, media analyst and marketing consultant based in Amsterdam

...a marketeer (and she sees no shame in it!) and media analyst with a penchant for pop culture and endless discussions on the merits of TV shows and bad advertising practices.

...half Hispanic, half Eastern European and lives in Amsterdam, The Netherlands, by way of her home town of Buenos Aires (where she was born and raised).

...a truly adopted Amsterdammer capable of cursing in three languages, after living there for almost a decade and a half.

...an “ideas instigator” and writes mostly about politics, race and feminism with the occasional pop culture inspired rant added for good measure, from her very mixed perspective of place of birth, culture and education in the Global South and current European residence.

 

[Greebo]

You've probably heard the ATOS news:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26287199

But why are the BBC News Channel not covering it? <snip>

Mentioned on R4's news, also on You and Yours and PM.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Yes, Dzodan is a woman of many job descriptions. One or two of which are a little eyebrow raising. But for our purposes she is of note for coining the emblematic intersectionalist slogan.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Yes, Dzodan is a woman of many job descriptions. One or two of which are a little eyebrow raising. But for our purposes she is of note for coining the emblematic intersectionalist slogan.

You mean

my feminism will be intersectional or it will be bullshit

?

 

[Obnoxiousness]

Mentioned on R4's news, also on You and Yours and PM.

Thanks

But coverage on the TV was zero. Lunchtime I watched at least one whole news cycle of the satellite channel 503, and there was nothing.

 

[Greebo]

<snip>Lunchtime I watched at least one whole news cycle of the satellite channel 503, and there was nothing.

The thing is, you'll probably find more people getting the news off the radio or the net during the day, instead of on television.

Edited to add: BTW check your having time to watch the telly during the day privilege.

 

[rekil]

...half Hispanic, half Eastern European and lives in Amsterdam

She needs to check her not inconsiderable privilege imho.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

You mean

?

Yes.

 

[ViolentPanda]

That quote will hopefully be following her around for the entire length of her career.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Yes.

I have the estimable SAM! (Sometimes of This Parish) to thank for illuminating me on this point

 

[ViolentPanda]

Who?



Oh.

Yes, that's right, she's a self-facilitating media node.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Yes, that's right, she's a self-facilitating media node.

I get the impression that she doesn't actually write much about politics for mainstream media outlets or academic ones. Her mass media involvement seems to be as a marketing consultant, while in political terms she's a blogger not a columnist.

 

[J Ed]

Flavia "intersectional or bullshit" Dzodan served up a twitter rant about those racist old Marxists. You'll get the tone from one example:

@redlightvoices: White Marxist dudes, if you are "revolution", I rather stay in this shit.When you are in charge, it'll be as awful minus pumpkin spice latte

My intersectionalism will be consumerist or it will be bullshit or is that the other way around?

 

[rekil]

When you are in charge, it'll be as awful minus pumpkin spice latte

This is the problem with 140 characters. Drivel that makes no sense is reduced into making even less sense.

the issue is that they (white cis marxist dudes!) demand we give up our very livelihoods so that theirs can prevail. It's a matter of survival

Shake in your shoes marketing consultants!

 

[DaveCinzano]

SHARE THE PAIN:

Laurie PennyVerified account ‏@PennyRed
So, fun facts. Because of BBC travel-sharing policies I am now stuck in a car with a Tory MP for 4 hours. Wish me luck?

9:46 PM - 21 Feb 2014

 

[J Ed]

lauriepenny don't worry you two can spend your time talking about microaggressive reverse snobbery

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Shake in your shoes marketing consultants!

What was the context for that particularly bizarre one? It sounds almost like she was responding to an argument about her class position, but surely not?

 

[rekil]

SHARE THE PAIN:

The responses...

Start a sing-song! Start off with Avanti Popolo & see if you get round to Anarchy in the UK by Reading

What was the context for that particularly bizarre one? It sounds almost like she was responding to an argument about her class position, but surely not?

I can't remember tbh. I'll have a look tomorrow. Lots of nuggets in there, but that stuck out.

 

[el-ahrairah]

so let me get this straight. some middle class business type doesn't want a marxist revolution? but wants us to believe that's because of racism rather than because she's a middle class business type?

and is anyone actually falling for this shit?

 

[revol68]

sorry guys but my problems with Laurie are melting away at that pic of her with the dog, fuck sake.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

sorry guys but my problems with Laurie are melting away at that pic of her with the dog, fuck sake.

Until you look closely and can see her expression suggests she is thinking "look at me with this dog, aren't I cool and cute" rather than "look at the cute doggie"

 

[rekil]

The same pricks that fapped over Snowden for releasing them docs that show what the US gets up to now pooh-poohing the notion that the US is sponsoring efforts to destabilise Venezuela, and apparently underestimaing the implacable hatred the latin american right have for any form of socialism into the bargain.

Exhibit a)

 

[SpineyNorman]

And there's me thinking that Venezuelans are americans. I think her statement is a little bit racism and cultural imperialism

 

[butchersapron]

Serious politics going on and her concern is with calling some racist.

 

[Theisticle]

@mollycrabapple
Painting everyone on the streets in a foreign country as a dupe (even if you don't like their cause) is dangerously US-centric and insulting

LOL

 

[J Ed]

These idiots protesting on the streets of Caracas are passing around racist bullshit about how Maduro is flying in black Cuban soldiers to rape middle-class Venezuelans, if people with views like that in America were protesting she'd probably call them hicks or rednecks.

 

[caleb]

In my SU elections the one "intersectionalist" running for the Equality & Diversity position is also the only able-bodied, white person. I'm pretty sure, to use a phrase so beloved of twitter intersectionalists, she should "sit the fuck down and learn" from those running against her. But then how would she get that nice job in the Labour Party after.

 

[J Ed]

Releasing right-wing oligarchs with fantastic hair is a little bit communism...

 

[rekil]

In my SU elections the one "intersectionalist" running for the Equality & Diversity position is also the only able-bodied, white person. I'm pretty sure, to use a phrase so beloved of twitter intersectionalists, she should "sit the fuck down and learn" from those running against her. But then how would she get that nice job in the Labour Party after.

Private school as well?

 

[caleb]

Apparently not. But definitely posh.

It's funny though, she's being supported by all the intersectional lot and the self-proclaimed revolutionaries (not that there are many of them, or that they are actually revolutionary) despite a) the fucking obvious fact that by their own standards she probably shouldn't be running at all, and b) she's big in the student Labour society.

I genuinely would prefer a fat, Tory toff to win over the student Labour lot and their friends. More or less the same class interests, but without all the piousness, or, funnily enough, the ambition.