Ukraine: Unsubstantiated rumours and speculation

[cupid_stunt]

No idea what thread this should go in but I found it quite funny. My boss has dispatched his chauffeur to Poland with 10k in cash and a wagonload of supplies from Boots. And he's asking for suggestions for his playlist for the journey. Sorry, a bit pissed but I did lol at this. I guess it's quite sweet in a fucked up kinda way. That he has a chauffeur for starters. Any suggestions for the valiant man's playlist?

 

[DaveCinzano]

 

[Petcha]

I should point out that the fact i LOLed is because the boss in question is an old Tory. Although I guess he does actually do quite of a lot of other humanitarian stuff but I still can't get past the fact that he's a tory. I know he means well. And hates Boris and Priti. So not all bad. I hope George, his chauffeur is currently rocking out to this. In fact the entire Forrest Gump soundtrack would do the trick, highly missed out compilation that.

 

[2hats]

Spoiler: A little Kraftwerk.

 

[Supine]

 

[Supine]

 

[platinumsage]

That's a few months old, and to be fair the body language of the other presenters seems to be along the lines of "wow what a crazy guy we've found"

 

[dilute micro]

After Ukraine, what are the real probabilities that Russia thinks it can ignore NATO and start snatching up other countries in Europe? When we see video of Putin nodding his head at the reports from the military that things are going according to plan in Ukraine, that's obviously for Russian eyes. Putin has to know that his military isn't as good as he thought.

 

[The39thStep]

With maps in English for those that do not understand Russian?

 

[two sheds]

I learned yesterday that Crimea is that bit at the top that makes the Black Sea look like Australia

 

[WhyLikeThis]

This is a classy protest tactic:

 

[JimW]

I learned yesterday that Crimea is that bit at the top that makes the Black Sea look like Australia

Don't think you can describe that a rumour, substantiated or otherwise, it's a fact and an observation cum aesthetic opinion.

 

[two sheds]

True, true, I didn't want to divert the main thread with it though. See I were being considerate with my speculation and speculative with my consideration .

 

[gosub]

I'm not buying an atlas off either of you.

 

[Raheem]

With maps in English for those that do not understand Russian?

The map is from the Times website. Cos Google is cheaper than graphics artists.

 

[bimble]

 

[Dogsauce]

I’d be wary of any chem weapons claims without some kind of official verification, each side knows that it’s an easy way to paint the other guys as the bad guys or a red line that might widen the war participants.

 

[nogojones]

Many countries have used them and I can't recall any of them getting done for war crimes, so I'm not holding my breath that Russia will either.

 

[bimble]

I’d be wary of any chem weapons claims without some kind of official verification, each side knows that it’s an easy way to paint the other guys as the bad guys or a red line that might widen the war participants.

Yes, that’s why it’s in this thread & that’s why he starts with ‘If’.

 

[NoXion]

I’d be wary of any chem weapons claims without some kind of official verification, each side knows that it’s an easy way to paint the other guys as the bad guys or a red line that might widen the war participants.

Pretty sure that white phosphorous is generally considered an incendiary, not a chemical weapon.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Many countries have used them and I can't recall any of them getting done for war crimes, so I'm not holding my breath that Russia will either.

Including the US and the UK.

 

[platinumsage]

It wouldn't be a war crime unless civilians were involved.

The video I've seen shows something burning in the sky surrounded by total blackness, so it's impossible to tell anything.

 

[Indeliblelink]

Claim on TASS that Russian soldiers found a load of executed civilians near Popasnaya railway station, says the Ukrainians used them as human shields or shot them if they tried to escape.

https://tass.com/society/1421495

Chief of Russia’s Investigative Committee Alexander Bastrykin has ordered to investigate the circumstance of the mass execution of civilians in the Lugansk People’s Republic (LPR), the Committee’s press service said on Sunday.

"The Investigative Committee chairman has ordered investigators to collect evidence and identify all those involved in it in order to bring them to responsibility under law," it said.

According to earlier reports, during an offensive in the Popasnaya direction LPR forces came across a site of mass execution of civilians near a railway. According to the PLR People’s Militia, retreating Ukrainian troops used people as a human shield and shot dead anyone offering resistance or trying to escape.

 

[Sue]

Claim on TASS that Russian soldiers found a load of executed civilians near Popasnaya railway station, says the Ukrainians used them as human shields or shot them if they tried to escape.

https://tass.com/society/1421495

TASS, that impartial, Russian state-owned news agency...

 

[Indeliblelink]

Yes, hence posting in this thread rather than the main one.

 

[bimble]

Claim on TASS that Russian soldiers found a load of executed civilians near Popasnaya railway station, says the Ukrainians used them as human shields or shot them if they tried to escape.

https://tass.com/society/1421495

thats the same place as the Alleged phosphorus attack yesterday isnt it.

 

[gosub]

TASS, that impartial, Russian state-owned news agency...

It's still a there's a fuck ton of civil an bodies that need explaining and probably eventually investigating and prosecuting

 

[A380]

Elon Musk has challenged Putin to single combat for Ukraine. Apparently.

 

[mx wcfc]

Elon Musk has challenged Putin to single combat for Ukraine. Apparently.

Not sure what the best outcome would be.

 

[emanymton]

Not sure what the best outcome would be.

Easy, one mortally wounded but not incapacitated so they are able to mortally wound the other.