Ukraine: Unsubstantiated rumours and speculation
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Popcorn time
TopCat
Putin fanboy
That fucker on the right
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Another NAFO suicide, this time after his DMs sexually harassing a woman NAFO were released
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Oh dear, The Georgian Legion seems to have been scamming donations,
ukrainetoday.co.uk
‘Georgian Legion’: Evidence Shows Leader Lied About Being Poisoned to Get Donations, Has Set Up ‘Dodgy’ NGO With Convicted American Fraudster
Volunteers and Non-Governmental Organisations have proven themselves pivotal in helping Ukraine in its ongoing defence against Russia’s unprovoked, illegal invasion. But whilst the vast majority of volunteers and fundraisers are legitimately involved with the best of intentions, some have...
ukrainetoday.co.uk
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Elena Gold:
Russia’s latest test of the new nuclear ICBM RS-28 “Satan II” (Sarmat) reportedly failed at Plesetsk cosmodrome in Arkhangelsk region yesterday.
According to Planet Labs, the missile detonated in the silo leaving a massive crater and destroying the test site.
Russia claimed that these missiles had been on combat duty since September 1, 2023.
This was at least the 4th failed test attempt of the "combat operational" Satan (Sarmat) Heavy ICBM.
Just days before, Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov was once again threatening nukes, among the conversations about allowing Ukraine to hit targets deep in Russia with western weapons:
“No one wants a nuclear war, but I can assure you we have weapons that will have very serious consequences for the masters of the Ukrainian regime,” threatened Lavrov.
Russia’s latest test of the new nuclear ICBM RS-28 “Satan II” (Sarmat) reportedly failed at Plesetsk cosmodrome in Arkhangelsk region yesterday.
According to Planet Labs, the missile detonated in the silo leaving a massive crater and destroying the test site.
Russia claimed that these missiles had been on combat duty since September 1, 2023.
This was at least the 4th failed test attempt of the "combat operational" Satan (Sarmat) Heavy ICBM.
Just days before, Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov was once again threatening nukes, among the conversations about allowing Ukraine to hit targets deep in Russia with western weapons:
“No one wants a nuclear war, but I can assure you we have weapons that will have very serious consequences for the masters of the Ukrainian regime,” threatened Lavrov.
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
I've heard nothing substansive since this, but it would really complicate the situation as far as being able to morally support Ukraine (speaking personaly)
www.ukrainianworldcongress.org
Israel considers reviewing policy on arms supply to Ukraine
www.ukrainianworldcongress.org
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
Hmm, looks like it could be an actual thing. As always more will be going on than has been allowed to leak.
www.nytimes.com
Pentagon Sends U.S. Arms Stored in Israel to Ukraine (Published 2023)
Israeli officials had initially expressed concerns that the move could damage its relations with Russia.
nogojones
spelling is overrated
Is that a better or worse track record compared to the UK's Trident launch fails?
There's a part of me that hopes that no ones rockets really work, and the money spunked on trying to blow up the world, on all sides has just been siphoned off into the bank accounts of numerous bureaucrats.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Who is Elena Gold? The only one I can find runs a dating agency
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
The UK trident didn't explode when they tried to launch it. The whole point of deterrence is the other side has to believe your missiles work. Russia's deterrence looking a bit crap is scary as a Chinese or American general might have a good idea
nogojones
spelling is overrated
Doesn't mean she hasn't a valid opinion on how rockets are suposed to work
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
Perhaps the Urban75 rocket scientists should check her work
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
She’s the owner of a modelling and dating agency, has a degree in philosophy, born and raised in the USSR and is writing a book on the war.
Perhaps I am reading you all wrong but all three responses regarding her appear to be belittling her cos she’s a woman and owner of a modelling and dating agency, so her opinion counts for shit. Like I say, perhaps I am reading you wrong.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I tried to find any books or papers that she had written or interviews but alas none. You should post some more of her opinions up so we can get a better assessment of whether her opinion counts for shit or not.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
The one piece of hers I have posted, what do you think of that? She reported it as fact, yet all you have done so far is try to slag her off cos of her businesses, par for the course with the toxic masculinity surrounding this issue in this site, fucking poor show tbf.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I'll wait for her book.
Russia's RS-28 Sarmat test fails, missile detonates in silo
According to satellite images, on September 21, 2024, at the Plesetsk cosmodrome (Arkhangelsk region, Russia), the launch pad silo blew up during tests
global.espreso.tv
OSINT project reports another failed Russian nuclear missile test
Open-source intelligence project MeNMyRC reported on Sept. 19 that a test launch of Russia’s RS-28 Sarmat Super-Heavy Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) resulted in failure at the launch site in Plesetsk, Russia based on analysis of satellite images.
The story is reported by others too.
maomao
普費斯
Only 1 in 5 Sarmat tests have been successful. But a single Sarmat can carry ten 750-kiloton warheads, so three hundred Nagasakis per missile. They also have other ICBMs as well as subs and bombers. Ten percent of the 1700 operational warheads they claim would be world changing and kill hundreds of millions.
Sorry for not showing as much 'nerve' as David 'bunker access' Lammy.
Sorry for not showing as much 'nerve' as David 'bunker access' Lammy.
If the latest one to fail had nukes on it wouldn't it have destroyed / nuked part of Russia off the planet ?
I mean wouldn't the Russian in charge of Sarmat want to be completely batshit crazy to launch one with as you say, "750 kilo ton warheads"?
On a 20% chance it would not fail?
Those odds are ridiculously bad.
maomao
普費斯
They don't test them with nukes on. It's a test of the missile system.
Read what I wrote again.
And the tests are in preparation for the use of actual warheads .
My point is that they have an 80% failure rate so the threat to actually deploy one of these would be more of a danger to their own people / country than to the west..at the moment.
maomao
普費斯
Now you've finished writing it. Russia has lots of places it can launch a nuke from and not really worry about that sort of thing. They've tested a 50 megaton bomb before.
They would still want to be batshit crazy. If as you say each warhead is the equivalent of 10 Nagasakis.
Especially if one explodes anywhere over a populated area in Russia.
Their own people must be terrified.
2hats
Dust.
Yes, a RS-28 test launch failed. Again.
No, if that were combat ready with live warheads the odds that they would have detonated at full or even partial yield is beyond the far end of 'extremely unlikely' (though the area cleanup exercise would have been protracted). Of more immediate concern would be the unspent hypergolics (here, hydrazine plus either NTO or RFNA; highly toxic - it might even have been the mishandling of those that precipitated the failure as oppose to a live running rocket motor incident).
Next up this week is a 9M730 flight test out of the Nyonoksa range. That alone, under nominal testing conditions of the production hardware, could cause more environmental damage than a live-armed RS-28 failure.
No, if that were combat ready with live warheads the odds that they would have detonated at full or even partial yield is beyond the far end of 'extremely unlikely' (though the area cleanup exercise would have been protracted). Of more immediate concern would be the unspent hypergolics (here, hydrazine plus either NTO or RFNA; highly toxic - it might even have been the mishandling of those that precipitated the failure as oppose to a live running rocket motor incident).
Next up this week is a 9M730 flight test out of the Nyonoksa range. That alone, under nominal testing conditions of the production hardware, could cause more environmental damage than a live-armed RS-28 failure.
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The Georgian Legion /NAFO debacle gets even better . The bloke responsible for The Georgian Legion Twitter account has fled to the States after allegedly having 400k dollars go through his account. All sorts of allegations in this updated article about the scam which ripped off NAFO who ironically were formed around supporting the Georgian Legion.
ukrainetoday.co.uk
UPDATE: Meet The Man Accused of Exploiting The Georgian Legion to ‘Scam Nafo Donors Out of Hundreds of Thousands of Dollars’, & His Convicted Criminal Sidekick
The official Twitter account of the Georgian Legion is curiously solely managed by one individual, a Ukrainian living in America who has been reported for alleged draft-dodging, and who used his own personal PayPal account to collect hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations. The individual...
ukrainetoday.co.uk
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Quick update on the Georgian Legion who some NAFO posters on here were supporting ( and possibly donating to). They haven't been seen at the frontline fighting Russian troops but have been intimidating journalists in Ukraine. Jay Beecher journalist and former editor of The Kiev Post who has…" written over 800 pro-Ukraine, anti-Russia articles” is being threatened by Georgian Leģion for an article in which he summarised mainstream news about their corruption and grifting.
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