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Russia's Luna-25 spacecraft crashes into Moon
The unmanned craft span out control before its planned landing on the Moon's south pole.
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Ukraine: Unsubstantiated rumours and speculation
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Kadyrov reported to have been in a coma for over a week, now people saying he's gone to dine at Prigozhin's table in the sky...
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
I read on Twitter he was poisoned by some bloke who he buried alive after finding out.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Admiral Sokolov Viktor Nikolayevich the Commander of the Black Sea Fleet was killed in the attack on the Black Sea Fleet headquarters.
By a country with no navy
By a country with no navy
PTK
Paul Kegan
Both Russia and Ukraine have navies.Admiral Sokolov Viktor Nikolayevich the Commander of the Black Sea Fleet was killed in the attack on the Black Sea Fleet headquarters.
By a country with no navy
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
We know. Russia's one is being sunk and their admirals offed, the Ukrainian one is effectively not existent, which is why them sinking the Moskva, blockading the Sea of Azov and killing Russian admirals is reflecting so well on Russia's military capability.
For the lols the Turks should give formal permission for the Admiral Kuznetsov to pass through the Bosphorus and join in the action.
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WouldBe
Dislicksick
And getting smaller day by day.
Nikkormat
Well-Known Member
Kyiv Independent were reporting this, and I ignored it as very wishful thinking. However, while it is still speculation, Mark Galeotti discusses it on his excellent In Moscow's Shadows podcast (episode 115), along with possibilities for the future: "This looks a lot more plausible than the previous times we've heard these tales".
Rumours of Kadyrov's doctor, Elkhan Suleymanov, being buried alive are mentioned; also see this article.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Leaked message to Putin:
“Thursday, September 21, 2023, in the morning report to Russian President Vladimir Putin, the irretrievable military operational losses of personnel of the Russian Armed Forces are 286,195 people. Data as of 6:00 Moscow time today.
This figure does not take into account data on the losses of Russian PMCs taking part in hostilities on the territory of Ukraine; Tuesday, August 1, this is 76,192 dead. Most Russian PMCs came under the control of the Russian Ministry of Defence and their losses are now an integral part of the total losses; since August 1, separate calculations have not been carried out”.
“Thursday, September 21, 2023, in the morning report to Russian President Vladimir Putin, the irretrievable military operational losses of personnel of the Russian Armed Forces are 286,195 people. Data as of 6:00 Moscow time today.
This figure does not take into account data on the losses of Russian PMCs taking part in hostilities on the territory of Ukraine; Tuesday, August 1, this is 76,192 dead. Most Russian PMCs came under the control of the Russian Ministry of Defence and their losses are now an integral part of the total losses; since August 1, separate calculations have not been carried out”.
phildwyer
Plata o plomo
trabuquera
Modesty Bag
^ There are at least two ways to read that -
"Erdogan says he trusts Russia as much as he trusts the West" ie doesn't trust Russia even a little bit, since those treacherous dogs of the West have lied to Turkey for centuries, strung him along for years over EU entry etc, and/or
"Erdogan says he trusts Russia as much as he trusts the West" ie views Putin's Russia as a predictable and rational actor just like any other state on earth.
Hmmm.
"Erdogan says he trusts Russia as much as he trusts the West" ie doesn't trust Russia even a little bit, since those treacherous dogs of the West have lied to Turkey for centuries, strung him along for years over EU entry etc, and/or
"Erdogan says he trusts Russia as much as he trusts the West" ie views Putin's Russia as a predictable and rational actor just like any other state on earth.
Hmmm.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Or he trusts Russia because they've just let his mates in Azerbaijan take over Nagorno-Karabakh.
phildwyer
Plata o plomo
Yep. Turkey has never been a natural ally of the West and is now flirting with BRICS.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
I think it's because Turkey has been waiting a squillion years to become part of the EU, whereas Ukraine's incorporation into Russia was underway before it even applied.
phildwyer
Plata o plomo
That's one reason, but there are many others: Cyprus, Bosnia, PKK, they're still moaning about Midnight Express believe it or not. Now there is an increasing population of radical Muslims who are rolling back the secular state and see NATO membership as part of the problem, they are even criticizing Ataturk now.
they drove a hard bargain for in the Izmir Bazaar during their summer holidays.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Russian propaganda mouthpieces revealing the scale of the Russian losses to the people for the first time…
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Yes, its about the alleged number of Ukranian dead It originally came from a Russian blogger Ruslan Tatarinov. who runs a Telegram channel and he said it on a radio broadcast around the end of July. It's allegedly based on obituaries by region, pages of village and city councils from the period June 1st 2022 to June 1st 2023.
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Troop deaths, injuries in Ukraine war nearing 500,000 - NYT citing US officials
The number of Ukrainian and Russian troops killed or wounded since the war in Ukraine began in February 2022 is nearing 500,000, the New York Times reported on Friday, citing unnamed U.S. officials.
Russian war dead is now higher the initial Russia deployment of 'special military operation' some of whom had dress uniforms for parades.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Rumour has it that General Staff Valery Gerasimov is no more following the battering Ukraine gave Crimea yesterday.
Riklet
procrastinación
Hell of a rumour and sounds v unlikely to me.
But it is all over twitter so we'll see. Nothing at all concrete yet aside from no sign of him for a week. Cunt probs on holiday.
Riklet
procrastinación
3rd most senior Russian military figure was just hanging out in Crimea at night in a building or base not protected from missile strikes and gets hit by one of the relatively few cruise missiles launched? And the Ukranians had accurate enough info for this to target him?
I really don't buy it.
I really don't buy it.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
So...Sanctioned Vladimir Kolokoltsev was allowed to attend a UN meeting in New York about police chiefs, but used the oppertunity to nip to Washington to deliver Putin's upgraded offer of peace:
Sharing Crimean sovereignty with Ukraine.
Hand back Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Station and the town of Enerhodar to Ukraine.
Discuss handing back in full the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions to Ukraine.
In return he wants:
Donetsk and Luhansk to be handed over in full to Russia, including the bits they couldn't get in 2 years of all-out war.
A promise to supply water to Crimea.
Russia to dictate how much military Ukraine is allowed to posses.
Russia to dictate whether Ukraine can form alliances with other nations.
Sharing Crimean sovereignty with Ukraine.
Hand back Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Station and the town of Enerhodar to Ukraine.
Discuss handing back in full the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions to Ukraine.
In return he wants:
Donetsk and Luhansk to be handed over in full to Russia, including the bits they couldn't get in 2 years of all-out war.
A promise to supply water to Crimea.
Russia to dictate how much military Ukraine is allowed to posses.
Russia to dictate whether Ukraine can form alliances with other nations.
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