DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Is that confirmed?I think the suggestion is that nothing on the main thread is satisfactorily substantiated either.
Is that confirmed?I think the suggestion is that nothing on the main thread is satisfactorily substantiated either.
To speak of how awful war is even Russia wouldn't know exactly how many they've lost.
That unknown soldier does put it about a bit in times of warTo speak of how awful war is even Russia wouldn't know exactly how many they've lost.
The most important rule of propaganda, and the one most dangerous when using it is:Interesting summary about war time proganda by Anne Morelli in Principes élémentaires de propagande de guerre
- We do not want war.
- The opposite party alone is guilty of war.
- The enemy is inherently evil and resembles the devil.
- We defend a noble cause, not our own interests.
- The enemy commits atrocities on purpose; our mishaps are involuntary.
- The enemy uses forbidden weapons.
- We suffer small losses, those of the enemy are enormous.
- Recognized artists and intellectuals back our cause.
- Our cause is sacred.
- All who doubt our propaganda are traitors
Didn't happen.The war will likely be settled in ten days with a ceasefire agreement and settlement on Russian terms.
wtf? Why would you poison the delegates who came to negotiate peace with you. Completely weird. its a thread. Surprisingly legit sources.
"Symptoms consistent with poising with chemical weapons". OK, so did you think about getting tested?
Smells like PR, maybe?
The investigation was organized by Christo Grozev, an investigator with the Bellingcat open-source collective who concluded that a Kremlin team poisoned Russian opposition politician Alexei Navalny with a nerve agent in 2020. Mr. Grozev said that he saw the images of the effects of the attack on Mr. Abramovich and Ukrainian negotiators, but that a timely sample collection couldn’t be arranged in the western Ukrainian city of Lviv, through which they were traveling, because these people were in a hurry to travel to Istanbul.
By the time a German forensic team with the required know-how was able to perform an examination, too much time had passed for the suspected poison to be detected, he said. “It was not intended to kill, it was just a warning,” Mr. Grozev said.
That’s why it’s in this thread, there’s no hard proof, but these are not the usual sources for tall tales. I’ve kind of given up trying to fathom motive when it comes to this war but still yeah, this makes no sense to me at all as a message or a strategy."Symptoms consistent with poising with chemical weapons". OK, so did you think about getting tested?
Smells like PR, maybe?
That’s why it’s in this thread, there’s no hard proof, but these are not the usual sources for tall tales. I’ve kind of given up trying to fathom motive when it comes to this war but still yeah, this makes no sense to me at all as a message or a strategy.
Frighteners? As in: we're in control wherever you are so despite all your big talk you'd better not step out of line.That’s why it’s in this thread, there’s no hard proof, but these are not the usual sources for tall tales. I’ve kind of given up trying to fathom motive when it comes to this war but still yeah, this makes no sense to me at all as a message or a strategy.
US intelligence 'source' suggests environmental factor instead of intentional poisoning.
Intelligence suggests 'environmental' factor sickened Abramovich, Ukrainian negotiators -U.S. official
A U.S. official said on Monday that intelligence suggests the sickening of Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian peace negotiators was due to an environmental factor, not poisoning.www.reuters.com
US intelligence 'source' suggests environmental factor instead of intentional poisoning.
Intelligence suggests 'environmental' factor sickened Abramovich, Ukrainian negotiators -U.S. official
A U.S. official said on Monday that intelligence suggests the sickening of Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian peace negotiators was due to an environmental factor, not poisoning.www.reuters.com
Only things I can think of are sowing confusion and/or provoking a retaliation that can be capitalised upon.
US intelligence 'source' suggests environmental factor instead of intentional poisoning.
Intelligence suggests 'environmental' factor sickened Abramovich, Ukrainian negotiators -U.S. official
A U.S. official said on Monday that intelligence suggests the sickening of Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian peace negotiators was due to an environmental factor, not poisoning.www.reuters.com
Not sure why the confusion about motive. Seems pretty clear it could be to warn off any oligarcs (s,p) high profile Russian nationals, siding with Ukraine or as a punishment for doing so.
Sun had set.Environmental factor? Causing blindness?
The network, which operated in Kharkiv, Cherkasy, Ternopil, and Zakarpattia, aimed to discourage Ukrainian citizens and instill panic by distributing false information about the Russian invasion and the status of the defenders.
According to the SSU’s announcement, the goal of the network was to destabilize the sociopolitical situation in various regions, thus curbing the resistance of the Ukrainian militia.
The law enforcement agency in Ukraine raided the locations that hosted the bot farms and seized the following items:
- 100 sets of GSM gateways
- 10,000 SIM cards for various mobile operators to disguise the fraudulent activity
- Laptops and computers used for controlling and coordinating the bots