UK music industry, bands, work permits and Brexit

[littlebabyjesus]

Does anyone seriously think visas are going to be required for travel in Europe, after brexit?

For work? Yes if May has her way. We're talking about people travelling for work here not going on holiday.

 

[Pickman's model]

Does anyone seriously think visas are going to be required for travel in Europe, after brexit?

depends if may imposes them on people coming here - when i went to russia for my holiday i had to get a visa which putin started after our government forced russians coming here to get one.

 

[Wilf]

Ever toured Europe in a band before it was open borders? I did and it was a fucking pain and if we end up having to get visas - like we do for America - then it will absolutely become financially unsustainable for small bands to play Europe and vice versa.

And the impact is already being felt for bands coming into the UK



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But do you think that will actually be the outcome i.e. lots of bureaucracy, costly visas etc? Isn't it more likely that the uk and eu, regardless of which dickheads are in power, will come to some kind of agreement around this, just as they will around other forms of trade. I'm not dismissing the issue and agree it will have an impact, but there's an element of catastrophizing here.

 

[8ball]

Fucking liberal bigotry.

Indeed. It wasn't only racists who voted for Brexit.
Cunts did as well.

Credit goes to Stewart Lee for that one.

 

[Dr. Furface]

Does anyone seriously think visas are going to be required for travel in Europe, after brexit?

This isn't a travel issue, but a working issue, which is different obvs

 

[editor]

Sorry but The Sleaford Mods want out too.

Don't really care much what they think, tbh.

 

[editor]

But do you think that will actually be the outcome i.e. lots of bureaucracy, costly visas etc? Isn't it more likely that the uk and eu, regardless of which dickheads are in power, will come to some kind of agreement around this, just as they will around other forms of trade. I'm not dismissing the issue and agree it will have an impact, but there's an element of catastrophizing here.

But no one actually knows for sure, and that's the point.

 

[Ponyutd]

It's not about them, you idiot. It's about the bands, promoters, roadies and all the other people whose livelihood depends on being able to play, promote and sell music abroad.

You called for everyone on here to boycott Pimlico Plumbers because of the owner. You didn't think about the plumbers livelihoods then did you?

 

[8ball]

Don't really care much what they think, tbh.

Chris de Burgh is a remainer, so that should settle it for everyone!

 

[editor]

Does anyone seriously think visas are going to be required for travel in Europe, after brexit?

This is about musicians, not tourists.

 

[8ball]

You called for everyone on here to boycott Pimlico Plumbers because of the owner. You didn't think about the plumbers livelihoods then did you?

Won't be laughing when we're all dead from dysentery.

 

[Ponyutd]

I do agree with you about the owner by the way.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Geldof can be an arse but he's bang on about this. I can remember touring Europe when we had to fuck about with carnets at border checks and it was a right pain in the arse.




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Is he 'bang on' about it?

Or is he just positioning himself to record a Stop Brexit celebfest single in time for Christmas?

Let's be honest here, he wants to record a Stop Brexit single for Christmas.

 

[DotCommunist]

Ah 'Take back control'. Take back control of what, exactly? Well, among other things of course, and perhaps top of the list, borders. Or do you think most people were more concerned about regulations on the quality of cheese? Either way, this vote was a victory for nationalism.

tbf the main stated remain reason was 'the economy' so I can just assume a victory for remain would have been an affirmation of the internationalism of business and the solidarity of alright jacks. I won't though because I think things are little more complex than that when it comes to individual voter choices

 

[editor]

You called for everyone on here to boycott Pimlico Plumbers because of the owner. You didn't think about the plumbers livelihoods then did you?

Do they regularly form groups and go on tour around Europe then?

 

[TopCat]

I think a large percentage of 'out' voters didn't consider the ramifications, and of those, a large percentage probably couldn't spell ramifications.

Can you spell patronising cunt?

 

[The Fornicator]

LOL. Sleaford Mods vs. Peter Gabriel.

What a ridiculous bunfight it all is.

 

[Ponyutd]

They may have to if they cant find work.

 

[SpackleFrog]

it depends also in part whether more leavers have died than remainers gained the vote - whether the demographics have changed to any appreciable extent.

but the core point which most remainers/2nd reffers haven't grasped is that it is perfectly possible for the second referendum to repeat the result of the first. how many 3rd reffers would there really be?

Quite. You would have to think as well even if it did reverse the result, Farage would be screaming "BEST OF THREE" before Dimblebot had announced the result.

 

[8ball]

LOL. Sleaford Mods vs. Peter Gabriel.
What a ridiculous bunfight it all is.

Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel on opposite sides!

 

[Wilf]

Is he 'bang on' about it?

Or is he just positioning himself to record a Stop Brexit celebfest single in time for Christmas?

Let's be honest here, he wants to record a Stop Brexit single for Christmas.

A new song paying homage to the Common Agricultural Policy: 'Don't Feed The World'.

 

[SpackleFrog]

A new song paying homage to the Common Agricultural Policy: 'Don't Feed The World'.

GIVE THEM BACK THEIR SUBSIDIES, don't
FEED. THE. WORLD
LET THEM KNOW YOU CANNOT LEAVE, don't
FEED. THE. WORLD.

 

[TopCat]

Ever toured Europe in a band before it was open borders? I did and it was a fucking pain and if we end up having to get visas - like we do for America - then it will absolutely become financially unsustainable for small bands to play Europe and vice versa.

And the impact is already being felt for bands coming into the UK



'A Brexited flatland’: Peter Gabriel hits out after Womad stars refused entry to UK

Really small beer this.

 

[TopCat]

OK, let's talk about what an American musician did over three decades ago in South Africa. Bang on topic for a thread about Brexit.

Its relevant as the man is/was a cunt and not the sort to get away with meddling in our shit.

 

[Dr. Furface]

Its relevant as the man is/was a cunt and not the sort to get away with meddling in our shit.

And do you think your heroes Farage, Johnson and Rees-Mogg would have taken issue with Mr Simon back then?

 

[Pickman's model]

Quite. You would have to think as well even if it did reverse the result, Farage would be screaming "BEST OF THREE" before Dimblebot had announced the result.

You'd need something like 58%+, 52/48 the other way wouldn't do

 

[8ball]

GIVE THEM BACK THEIR SUBSIDIES, don't
FEED. THE. WORLD
LET THEM KNOW YOU CANNOT LEAVE, don't
FEED. THE. WORLD.

They could counter with their own song...

It's Brexit Time
There's no need to be afraid
Cos at Brexit time, we let in whites and we banish gays
And in this world of adequate food supplies...

I've broken the rhyme structure - ignore me

 

[TopCat]

Indeed. It wasn't only racists who voted for Brexit.
Cunts did as well.

Credit goes to Stewart Lee for that one.

You spit in the face of Bob Crow when you splutter that shite.

 

[8ball]

You spit in the face of Bob Crow when you splutter that shite.

Splutter.

 

[TopCat]

And do you think your heroes Farage, Johnson and Rees-Mogg would have taken issue with Mr Simon back then?

My heros are Bakunin, Marx, Crow. None of them would have voted for bigger cages and longer chains like you lot.
We voted to burn the masters estate down not caring it makes us homeless.