UK music industry, bands, work permits and Brexit

[cupid_stunt]

This is about musicians, not tourists.

And, get this, musicians from the UK managed to perform in Europe long before we joined the EU, without any real issues, The Beatles were performing in Germany long before they became famous.

So why should that change after we leave?

 

[TopCat]

Don't really care much what they think, tbh.

I dont care much what millionaire types write in open letters tbf.

 

[8ball]

But yeah, there were people who
voted Brexit on v. principled lefty grounds.
What they thought was really going to fucking happen was anyone’s guess, frankly.

And if all 12 of you voted the other way, or didn’t turn out, the result would not be different.

I was never a fan of the big business club either, but the “my enemy’s enemy” principle wasn’t a goer this time.

 

[Pickman's model]

My heros are Bakunin, Marx, Crow. None of them would have voted for bigger cages and longer chains like you lot.
We voted to burn the masters estate down not caring it makes us homeless.

I think it was durutti who said 'we're not in the least afraid of ruins, we can build shit up again'

 

[8ball]

And, get this, musicians from the UK managed to perform in Europe long before we joined the EU, without any real issues, The Beatles were performing in Germany long before they became famous.

When there was a heap more money to be made from record sales alone, a relatively small coterie of really bog bands, and you could afford to pay for the Rollers you drove into swimming pools out of your touring budget, you mean?

 

[8ball]

I think it was durutti who said 'we're not in the least afraid of ruins, we can build shit up again'

When you have some power you can. Let’s see how it works out now you’be taken it back.

 

[TopCat]

I think it was durutti who said 'we're not in the least afraid of ruins, we can build shit up again'

Innit. We dont need musos to help rebuild anyway.

 

[editor]

LOL. Sleaford Mods vs. Peter Gabriel.

What a ridiculous bunfight it all is.

And what a non existent contest it is you've just dreamt up!

 

[editor]

And, get this, musicians from the UK managed to perform in Europe long before we joined the EU, without any real issues, The Beatles were performing in Germany long before they became famous.

So why should that change after we leave?

Oh, so you were in a band pre-EU and know all about how 'easy' it was?
I was and can tell from direct experience that it was a fucking pain in the arse, and carnet checks and other border hassles could lead you to missing gigs altogether.

 

[TopCat]

I await but predict property owning remainers to try and impose previously imposed limits on sufferage soon enough. Led by littlebabyliberal.

 

[8ball]

And what a non existent contest it is you've just dreamt up!

Yeah, those two against a much older man is hardly fair.

 

[TopCat]

Oh, so you were in a band pre-EU and know all about how 'easy' it was?
I was and can tell from direct experience that it was a fucking pain in the arse, and carnet checks and other border hassles could lead you to missing gigs altogether.

We aint having another vote because of this tosh!

 

[editor]

I dont care much what millionaire types write in open letters tbf.

So if the bank balance is the most crucial and critical part of any debate, could you give a bank balance figure where we should safely ignore anyone's opinion?

 

[TopCat]

So if the bank balance is the most crucial and critical part of any debate, could you give a bank balance figure where we should safely ignore anyone's opinion?

Millionaire. I stated it above?

 

[SpackleFrog]

They could counter with their own song...

It's Brexit Time
There's no need to be afraid
Cos at Brexit time, we let in whites and we banish gays
And in this world of adequate food supplies...

I've broken the rhyme structure - ignore me

Shit jokes and shit rhymes

 

[editor]

We aint having another vote because of this tosh!

It's just one of the many, many things that were never discussed or debated along with the general fug of deceptive bullshit around the whole Leave campaign. How the fuck can anyone reasonably vote for something when it hasn't even been explained or decided what it all actually means?!

 

[8ball]

So if the bank balance is the most crucial and critical part of any debate, could you give a bank balance figure where we should safely ignore anyone's opinion?

It would have to be somewhere between Tim Martin and Jamie Oliver.

 

[Wilf]

Slightly ironic that Lord Geldof starred in the film version of The Wall.

 

[Pickman's model]

When you have some power you can. Let’s see how it works out now you’be taken it back.

Yeh. Me? I'm a very reluctant remainer. There's lots about the eu that's absolutely abhorrent, but I felt on the day that climate change and the great potential for a general war made being in marginally better than leaving. Was I right? I don't yet know.

 

[editor]

Millionaire. I stated it above?

So - just to get this straight - as soon as someone becomes a millionaire, their opinions on anything become worthless in your opinion?

 

[Pickman's model]

Slightly ironic that Lord Geldof starred in the film version of The Wall.

Which he should be up against

 

[planetgeli]

How the fuck can anyone reasonably vote for something when it hasn't even been explained or decided what it all actually means?!

Like in General elections.

 

[8ball]

Shit jokes and shit rhymes

Yes, it's terrible. I apologise to all concerned.
In my defence, I was still skirting dangerously close to improving on the original.

 

[SpackleFrog]

It's just one of the many, many things that were never discussed or debated along with the general fug of deceptive bullshit around the whole Leave campaign. How the fuck can anyone reasonably vote for something when it hasn't even been explained or decided what it all actually means?!

To be fair mon if we did it all again you'd still be in a position where nobody can tell you what it will actually mean. By your rational we should only vote when we know definitively what the result would mean. Which would be pretty rare.

 

[Pickman's model]

To be fair mon if we did it all again you'd still be in a position where nobody can tell you what it will actually mean. By your rational we should only vote when we know definitively what the result would mean. Which would be pretty rare.

Mon?

 

[SpackleFrog]

Mon?

Yes mon. Problem, monner?

 

[Wilf]

So - just to get this straight - as soon as someone becomes a millionaire, their opinions on anything become worthless in your opinion?

Well, there's every chance those opinions reflect their status and interest as a millionaire so... yes.

 

[8ball]

Yeh. Me? I'm a very reluctant remainer. There's lots about the eu that's absolutely abhorrent, but I felt on the day that climate change and the great potential for a general war made being in marginally better than leaving. Was I right? I don't yet know.

I was headed in that direction, but in the end couldn't stomach it and went for the spoilt vote.
I mean, George Osborne.

We were all played as leverage in a spat between competing sets of powerful corporate interests.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes mon. Problem, monner?

Just surprised

 

[SpackleFrog]

Just surprised

Dunna worry owd lad, canna anticipate everything mon, and wunna wanna either! #Dialect