Tottenham Hotspur 2020-21
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Zapp Brannigan
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Not a bad time to hit some form. One or both of Chelsea and Everton drop some points tonight too - 4th place looks like a big competition, but 2nd and 3rd not out of the equation.
Next up: Europa league match first leg, followed by a short trip for the NLD. COYS!!!
Next up: Europa league match first leg, followed by a short trip for the NLD. COYS!!!
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Can anyone understand why Jose had spurs playing no-possession "counterattacking" football, and then abandoned it? was it a test of the players? an experiment? is there any chance it will come back? Was he told by Levy to stop it because everyone hates it? has he been asked about it?
The39thStep
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Very much doubt if Levy would get involved in any discussion about tactics tbh or that Mourinho would even listen to him
Zapp Brannigan
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Probably because it worked a few times (Man City and Arsenal at home spring to mind), plus the way Kane and Son were linking up made a 5 second transition up the pitch a viable option.
Pace is still our best option, but the defence isn't good enough as a general rule to "contain and counter". We're far better at holding possession deep, drawing opponents onto us and then picking the right moment to break forward.
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Arsenal were beatable that week whatever the tactics, could've blown them away if attacked.
Maybe wheeling it out against the best team in the league is just about acceptable if you are convinced real football won't work.
Anyway, I hope it's a nonsense put to bed for good. It was excruciating. I'd rather have us charging around the pitch and risking getting caught on the break than ever going back to that.
A profile (in French) of Mauricio Pochettino, former manager of "Tottenham Hotspurs".
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i dont understand this calling Jose "Portuguese" like this:
is it some weird grammatical thing? Can anyone explain?
Its probably happened for years just Ive never liked him/Chelsea and so have avoided reading about him all these years till he joined Spurs
is it some weird grammatical thing? Can anyone explain?
Its probably happened for years just Ive never liked him/Chelsea and so have avoided reading about him all these years till he joined Spurs
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I blame Portuguese for that negative performance
Zapp Brannigan
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Completely agree. It wasn't a penalty in a million years (airkick with follow through into Sanchez, not Sanchez on Lacazette), but it's not good enough to just attribute the defeat to a refereeing error. Arsenal were there for the taking and we were poor.
Lamela's goal though!
Lamela's goal though!
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I think someone needs to give Jose some copies of Roy of the Rovers to read for inspiration. Or my personal favourite, Billys Boots
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
I'm torn. On the one hand, Rabona goals should count double because they're amazing. On the other hand, they should only count half because it's an admission you can't use your weaker foot.
The solution - Rabonas count for 4 when done with the weaker foot.
CosmikRoger
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First time on the shelf, 1974 with my old man, this is the first Woolwich match I've missed for nearly half a century, and I'll wait another 50 before I go out of my way to watch any more Portugese Pulis shite.
You can't fucking win without trying to score a goal
You can't fucking win without trying to score a goal
Calmed down enough to post about Sunday now. Just.
That was as embarrassing a first half of football as I can remember seeing...and it was still fucking 1-1!! Devoid of any attacking intent, desire, intensity, pressing. Lazy passing. Stupid fouls. Should’ve been 3-0 and out of it at HT.
I see ‘our’ manager is busy throwing the players under the bus again but it’s March and he’s been denying that the low block /bus parking isn’t his idea all season?!?!! Whose fucking idea is it then? And why aren’t the players responsible being dropped? Geezer is a washed up fraud. A relic.
Woolwich are almost as mentally weak as us and nearly blew it in the last ten minutes. Imagine if we had attacked them from the off?
One win in the league there since it was built, no? Pathetic. Small time.
So keen are THFC to monetise their history and traditions that the Blanchflower quote is everywhere in that stadium, along with the Latin motto. It’s a shame neither Mourinho or the players appear to have read it...
As for the rest of the game: it was always gonna be a pen - deserved or not; Red for Coco was deserved but don’t really blame him; Doherty was shit and is shit but was completely overrun - a half decent manager wouldn’t have picked him. A competent coach would’ve spotted what was happening in the first ten minutes and altered the formation. Unlucky not to get a point at the end which would’ve been completely undeserved.
oh and Alan Smith and Sky can fuck right off
That was as embarrassing a first half of football as I can remember seeing...and it was still fucking 1-1!! Devoid of any attacking intent, desire, intensity, pressing. Lazy passing. Stupid fouls. Should’ve been 3-0 and out of it at HT.
I see ‘our’ manager is busy throwing the players under the bus again but it’s March and he’s been denying that the low block /bus parking isn’t his idea all season?!?!! Whose fucking idea is it then? And why aren’t the players responsible being dropped? Geezer is a washed up fraud. A relic.
Woolwich are almost as mentally weak as us and nearly blew it in the last ten minutes. Imagine if we had attacked them from the off?
One win in the league there since it was built, no? Pathetic. Small time.
So keen are THFC to monetise their history and traditions that the Blanchflower quote is everywhere in that stadium, along with the Latin motto. It’s a shame neither Mourinho or the players appear to have read it...
As for the rest of the game: it was always gonna be a pen - deserved or not; Red for Coco was deserved but don’t really blame him; Doherty was shit and is shit but was completely overrun - a half decent manager wouldn’t have picked him. A competent coach would’ve spotted what was happening in the first ten minutes and altered the formation. Unlucky not to get a point at the end which would’ve been completely undeserved.
oh and Alan Smith and Sky can fuck right off
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Aurier and Reguilon should be playing every game, with Davies and Tanganga deputising for the odd game (e.g. Europa this Thursday). Sad for Doherty, I wanted him to do well but he looks lost out there and completely devoid of confidence. New, young right back should be up there on the shopping list.
Sanchez does so much well but there's a mistake in him in every single game. There was a passage of play in the first half where 2 crosses came in in quick succession and he did brilliantly to get a head on each, really high quality positional play and distance on the headers. Yet there he was in the 2nd half, caught 2 yards out of position and making a desperate lunge when a reader of the game would have mopped up relatively easily. Alderweireld is still brilliant, and i'm in the minority who think Dier is a quality centre back, but each needs pace and/or athleticism alongside them. Play Rodon or Tanganga ffs.
I have no problem with us playing deep to try and maximise space for the quick players up front, but I hate that it's all done without the ball, inviting pressure on. In Hojbjerg and especially Ndombele we have players to dictate possession - 20 passes seemingly going nowhere around the back is fine, it draws opposition players out. One of Ndombele's trademark turns away from a pressing player and it straight away creates an overload somewhere and our front players are more than good enough to exploit it. We can't do that without the ball.
Speaking of without the ball, when we lose it we're always in such a rush to reset the defensive positions that we give up 40 yards almost instantly. The great Barcelona team of 6 or 7 years back, Man City & PSG now, the original Mourinho Chelsea team - when they lost the ball the first thought was to immediately hunt it back down, block off passing lanes, force either an error or an aimless hoof. It's high intensity and requires some serious fitness, but it can be done and it's better than this 30% possession dirge.
Oh, and amen to Alan Smith fucking right off.
Sanchez does so much well but there's a mistake in him in every single game. There was a passage of play in the first half where 2 crosses came in in quick succession and he did brilliantly to get a head on each, really high quality positional play and distance on the headers. Yet there he was in the 2nd half, caught 2 yards out of position and making a desperate lunge when a reader of the game would have mopped up relatively easily. Alderweireld is still brilliant, and i'm in the minority who think Dier is a quality centre back, but each needs pace and/or athleticism alongside them. Play Rodon or Tanganga ffs.
I have no problem with us playing deep to try and maximise space for the quick players up front, but I hate that it's all done without the ball, inviting pressure on. In Hojbjerg and especially Ndombele we have players to dictate possession - 20 passes seemingly going nowhere around the back is fine, it draws opposition players out. One of Ndombele's trademark turns away from a pressing player and it straight away creates an overload somewhere and our front players are more than good enough to exploit it. We can't do that without the ball.
Speaking of without the ball, when we lose it we're always in such a rush to reset the defensive positions that we give up 40 yards almost instantly. The great Barcelona team of 6 or 7 years back, Man City & PSG now, the original Mourinho Chelsea team - when they lost the ball the first thought was to immediately hunt it back down, block off passing lanes, force either an error or an aimless hoof. It's high intensity and requires some serious fitness, but it can be done and it's better than this 30% possession dirge.
Oh, and amen to Alan Smith fucking right off.
The39thStep
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Johnny Doe
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Wouldn't mind but he was on the fucking bench.
The thing is, you'd have assume this meant he had no involvement in the tweet at all. Which kind of make it pointless to follow a Joe Hart account. I know these guys have social media teams etc, but if they have no involvement, is it really just for advertising whatever product they've been paid to hawk this week?
GarveyLives
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It appears that all is not well 'behind the scenes':
"Even before you get to the horror of a manager who bases his approach on defence seeing his team squander a 2-0 lead, or the farce that Dinamo Zagreb’s manager was in prison, there is the fact that they lost to a team from the league ranked 19th in Europe."
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19TH is above SPurs I expect"Even before you get to the horror of a manager who bases his approach on defence seeing his team squander a 2-0 lead, or the farce that Dinamo Zagreb’s manager was in prison, there is the fact that they lost to a team from the league ranked 19th in Europe."
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Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Chelsea, total shite today.
Leicester, total shite today.
Arsenal, worst of the lot today.
Tomorrow, COME ON YOU SPURS!
Leicester, total shite today.
Arsenal, worst of the lot today.
Tomorrow, COME ON YOU SPURS!
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Spurs fan. Eternal optimist.
