Tottenham Hotspur 2011-2012 Official Thread

[Corax]

Hooray, the witch hunt continues!

Burn the witch! Burn the witch!

 

[xes]

Suarez is a cunt, though. I've had a cold dislike for him sinse long before he was outed as a racist scumbag. It's just his face, I want to stamp on it. I could forsee that bringing great pleasure.

 

[Big Gunz]

We only raise our game against good teams it seems.

 

[kained&able]

Suarez is a cunt, though. I've had a cold dislike for him sinse long before he was outed as a racist scumbag. It's just his face, I want to stamp on it. I could forsee that bringing great pleasure.

and the biteing a player the diliberate handball at the world cup and blah blah blah.

dave

 

[TruXta]

No news that he's a windup merchant and has a nasty streak, but I wouldn't have much respect for a player that wouldn't save a sure goal in the same situation. I don't see people getting on their high horse when a defender swipes the feet under someone about to go through on goal and score. It's serious foul play, and he got his red card as he should.

 

[kained&able]

if a defender swipes someone from behind when they are through on goal and they don't have a chance of getting the ball then i'm not at all happy with them.

You always have a better chance of winning the game with 11 men then 10 especially if a penalty is conceded in the process.

Suarez diliberatly cheated, i don't like that. I don't like that at all.

Especially when he had that smug look on his face when it all panned out. Tosser.

Clear it with your head or not at all.

dave

 

[xes]

we need to get this sung at Liverpool games

Suarez is a cunt
Suarez is a cuuuuunt
not cos he's a racist
Just because he's a cunt

 

[TruXta]

Jesus, dave, you telling me that 99% of players wouldn't have done the same thing?

 

[kained&able]

yes. Hence the ammount of times people go for headers off the line and miss it or put it into the roof of the net rather then play it with thier hands.

dave

 

[twistedAM]

Impressive argument: Name calling strangers on the Internet for the win.

was a play on words in an exchange with TruXta. If it caused you personal offence I apologise.

 

[TruXta]

yes. Hence the ammount of times people go for headers off the line and miss it or put it into the roof of the net rather then play it with thier hands.

dave

And how many do that in the last seconds of a WC finals match? Was it quarter-final? Can't remember exactly right now.

 

[kained&able]

I'd wager more then have been sent off for a such a deliberate handball in world cup quarter finals.

quote from suarez.

"It was worth it to be sent off in this way. It was complicated and tough. We suffered to the end but the hand of God, it's mine now."​

dickhead.

dave

 

[Big Gunz]

None of us have been in a situation where we've represented our country in a world cup and given those same circumstances with a point blank shot would we have done the same thing as him?

Lots of England fans still bitter about Maradona's "hand of god" letting it cloud their judgement.

 

[kained&able]

as im sure there are lots of irish fans who resent terry henrys winner against them in the play offs.

That one was funnier and it was the refs fault for not seeing it, but he was still a dick for doing it.

Shockingly enough i'm not a big fan of cheats.

dave

 

[Big Gunz]

You must hate Gareth Bale then for the brazen dive last night!

 

[xes]

Yeah that was a bit silly, especially getting up with the handbags out. But then, he was skipping over the challenge, which he thought was an over zealous one, hence his (over)reaction. Well, that's what I gleamed from it.

 

[kained&able]

You must hate Gareth Bale then for the brazen dive last night!

not watched the match or seen highlights.

I am however, convinced that there should be a dubious dives panel and anyone not booked at the time by the ref(and to be fair to the ref its hard to be sure at full speed with one view) should have a yellow card added to their tally after the game.

Diving and for that matter, players feigning injury really pisses me off.

dave

 

[twistedAM]

not watched the match or seen highlights.

I am however, convinced that there should be a dubious dives panel and anyone not booked at the time by the ref(and to be fair to the ref its hard to be sure at full speed with one view) should have a yellow card added to their tally after the game.

Diving and for that matter, players feigning injury really pisses me off.

dave

Do you think this just might have got pulled by your Dubious Dives Panel? It's so bad it's quite funny.

 

[kained&able]

he got booked didn't he? so no.

That is class though!

dave

 

[Corax]

You must hate Gareth Bale then for the brazen dive last night!

It's creeping into his game more and more I'm afraid. It's completely unnecessary for a player of his talent, and as is so often the case with divers, he's started to waste chances by rolling around on the floor instead of driving on. This is what these players never seem to appreciate - that if they stayed on their feet they'd probably score plenty from the opportunities they're throwing away.

I <3 Bale and would happily suck him dry, but it's really disappointing to see this latest 'development' in his game. I hope someone has a word with him and tells him to stop being a nob - but in truth he's probably being encouraged to do it by one of the coaches, because it's become a feature of the modern game and teams are now feeling like they're at a disadvantage if they don't join in.

Ref's need to start booking players for falling over, and I mean on a regular basis, not just when it's done persistently or completely over the top. How often do we see it? I can recall one yellow for diving all season.

 

[deadringer]

Football's biggest cunt:

...and I don't mean Scotty Parker or Daws.

it's a friendly gesture in uruguay, he does it to all his team mates in training too.

 

[agricola]

Yeah that was a bit silly, especially getting up with the handbags out. But then, he was skipping over the challenge, which he thought was an over zealous one, hence his (over)reaction. Well, that's what I gleamed from it.

This. It was a dive - though given that Skrtel had taken him out once by then already, and would do so again later, I dont blame him for thinking that Agger was probably going to do the same thing. In any case, it is of course worthwhile to hear fans of the shite harping on about diving because we get to see this video again:



Diving against Andorra?

 

[Deareg]

It's creeping into his game more and more I'm afraid. It's completely unnecessary for a player of his talent, and as is so often the case with divers, he's started to waste chances by rolling around on the floor instead of driving on. This is what these players never seem to appreciate - that if they stayed on their feet they'd probably score plenty from the opportunities they're throwing away.

I <3 Bale and would happily suck him dry, but it's really disappointing to see this latest 'development' in his game. I hope someone has a word with him and tells him to stop being a nob - but in truth he's probably being encouraged to do it by one of the coaches, because it's become a feature of the modern game and teams are now feeling like they're at a disadvantage if they don't join in.

Ref's need to start booking players for falling over, and I mean on a regular basis, not just when it's done persistently or completely over the top. How often do we see it? I can recall one yellow for diving all season.

To be honest Coraz, I think he has always done, I am constantly amazed how supporters latch on immediately to other teams players or players of teams they dislike doing it but are often totally oblivious to players from the team they support.

 

[TruXta]

I am constantly amazed how supporters latch on immediately to other teams players or players of teams they dislike doing it but are often totally oblivious to players from the team they support.

One for all of us to ponder. Tricks, cheats and outright foul play has always been part of the game, but the trend towards theatrics of late is worrying. I wonder what role cameras have had to play. Every blade of grass is covered in glorious HD now. Are players somehow reacting to this?

 

[Deareg]

One for all of us to ponder. Tricks, cheats and outright foul play has always been part of the game, but the trend towards theatrics of late is worrying. I wonder what role cameras have had to play. Every blade of grass is covered in glorious HD now. Are players somehow reacting to this?

It has been a gradual thing, I noticed it first in United's semi final 2nd leg against Juve in 99, I think it was Yorke who fell over the keepers legs when he had the chance to put the ball into an empty net, I was shocked that he would pass up the chance to score in favour of a penalty, Cole ended up putting the ball in the net.
There were arguments for years about what was or wasn't a foul and the powers that be decided to bring in a rule that any contact should be deemed a foul, I am convinced that this is how we have ended up where we are now with players falling over at the slightest touch, the diving and theatrics followed close behind.

There has always been an element of cheating and diving but now it is like a fucking plague.

 

[Corax]

To be honest Coraz, I think he has always done

See, he's always (like all players these days) gone down when fouled rather than doing his utmost to stay on his feet. But not when only brushed, barely touched. One of the most appealing aspects of his play during his rise to fame has been his ability to power through tackles, and boy can he do that when he wants to. Falling over when properly, solidly fouled, rather than continuing a run off-balance and then falling flat on his face five paces later, is understandable - and despite wishing that players wouldn't do it, I don't really condemn it and can't see it changing. The difference recently has been that he's started "looking" for the foul a la Adam Whossisname, and "anticipating" it - diving. That wasn't something he used to do.

I am constantly amazed how supporters latch on immediately to other teams players or players of teams they dislike doing it but are often totally oblivious to players from the team they support.

Agreed. Unless you're measuring something empirically, then any view on anything will inherently contain some sort of bias, but I think I'm capable of turning the Spurs-goggles off when I want and being objective. Many fans seem to think that doing that would be some sort of betrayal of their club. It's actually really fucking frustrating, because when you're trying to have a conversation with fans of other clubs, not only do they act blind to their own players' failings, they also assume that you're playing the same game. Makes any attempt at discussion utterly pointless.

 

[London_Calling]

Could this be 'arry's last night for some while as a free man...

 

[Corax]

I'd be massively surprised if he was given an immediate custodial, even if found guilty.

 

[Big Gunz]

I agree with corax for once. And nowadays I honestly believe most players would dive or whatever to gain an advantage, that includes gerrard.

 

[twistedAM]

I agree with corax for once. And nowadays I honestly believe most players would dive or whatever to gain an advantage, that includes gerrard.

Except seemingly Dzeko, Aguero and Silva. We could have won a few more pens this year if they'd, um, stumbled. Still, there's always Mario to massage the stats. He knows the Italian way.