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Tottenham Hotspur 2011-2012 Official Thread

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The funny thing, of course, is that these pictures relate to the Sol Campbell chants and so are of homophobes, or agateophobes, if anything, and certainly not of suspected racists.
 
IMHO...

What LC tried to do wasn't to abuse someone racially, it was to draw a parallel between racism and ageism.

It wasn't an appropriate comparison to make, it probably wasn't merited in the first place given the context "old" was used in, it was awkwardly executed, and it was certainly poorly judged.

But it wasn't racism, and to claim that it is for the sake of footballing rivalry would be more offensive than anything LC posted by a fair distance.

This shit? This is mitigative? So it's OK to make a racist comment if you didn't really mean it, and we're just being mean to LC for calling him on it. Grow a fucking pair will ya.
 
While I really appreciate the effort I can't completely agree with Corax's valiant effort. If I was trying to draw a parallel between ageism and racism I would have need to use 'Paki tosser'. Which, of course, I wouldn't have done anyway.

There's nothing particularly wrong with using 'old' per se, but it becomes pejorative and offensive when coupled with 'tosser', which is exact the intent of the user.

Equally, there is nothing wrong with using 'ethnic Pakistani' which, fwiw, is a term every British Pakistani I've ever known is content with as a description of their ... ethnicity. As I’ve said repeatedly, is the Gov in every document it publishes. So it’s a little curious RAF is apparently mortified, paralysed in grief, barely able to breathe for having read the offending phrase on the internet.

But I do sincerely thank Corax for his sense and fairness of mind. As I do everyone else who hasn’t belittled racism by taking the opportunity to have a vacuous pop when there is an important issue here, and a necesary stand to be made.
 
While I really appreciate the effort I can't completely agree with Corax's valiant effort. If I was trying to draw a parallel between ageism and racism I would have need to use 'Paki tosser'. Which, of course, I wouldn't have done anyway.

There's nothing particularly wrong with using 'old' per se, but it becomes pejorative and offensive when coupled with 'tosser', which is exact the intent of the user.

Equally, there is nothing wrong with using 'ethnic Pakistani' which, fwiw, is a term every British Pakistani I've ever known is content with as a description of their ... ethnicity. As I’ve said repeatedly, is the Gov in every document it publishes. So it’s a little curious RAF is apparently mortified, paralysed in grief, barely able to breathe for having read the offending phrase on the internet.

But I do sincerely thank Corax for his sense and fairness of mind. As I do everyone else who hasn’t belittled racism by taking the opportunity to have a vacuous pop when there is an important issue here, and a necesary stand to be made.

The jury was then read a statement from someone who had read press coverage of the trial and wanted to confirm that Redknapp was a very kind individual.
The witness, whose name was not read out in court, said that Redknapp had personally intervened to invite a former Spurs player now suffering from ill health to visit the club and have a cup of tea with him.
"How considerate and kind was that?" the person said in the statement.
 
If 'ethnic Pakistani' is racist you'd better let the Census people know, and the millions who describe themselves as such. But thanks for your insight. It was a response in kind - in the shape of a pointless descriptor - to an unpleasant, unthinking oaf who knows pretty well everyone in this thread has him on ignore when the bloody thing works.

Is this where you don't equate ageism with racism? This, where you make your totally innocent and neutral remark about his ethnicity is a "response in kind"? Who's the fucking oaf, LC? Have a fucking think.
 
Is this where you don't equate ageism with racism? This, where you make your totally innocent and neutral remark about his ethnicity is a "response in kind"? Who's the fucking oaf, LC? Have a fucking think.
Considering your defence of Suarez, you have some fucking cheek calling LC a racist.
 
Considering your defence of Suarez, you have some fucking cheek calling LC a racist.

I'm not calling LC a racist, and when the facts of the Suarez case became clear I've said again and again he should've realised he was out of order and apologised immediately. But don't let my words confuse you, keep on keeping on.
 
I'm hopeful of a proper belter, inc. the match up between Carroll and Kaboul - only one winner there.

Keen for them to play The Quarterback as he dimishes the game of everyone around him, glad Suarez won't be. Quite fancy it tbh.

Chelsea vs. Man Utd as well this weekend.
 
Oh, BBC Sport reckons Suarez is available...

When John Black QC, prosecuting, put it to Redknapp that he had been telling the court "a pack of lies", the football manager grew visibly emotional.
"You think I've put my hand on the bible and told lies? That's an insult, Mr Black, that's an insult," he said. "Everything I've told you has been the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
An indignant Redknapp then snapped: "Bring the bible up here again and I will put my hand on it." The manager hit back at suggestions that he had deliberately sought to evade tax, adding: "I'm the most ungreedy person you have met in your whole life, Mr Black. Ever. Ever."
 
When John Black QC, prosecuting, put it to Redknapp that he had been telling the court "a pack of lies", the football manager grew visibly emotional.
"You think I've put my hand on the bible and told lies? That's an insult, Mr Black, that's an insult," he said. "Everything I've told you has been the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
An indignant Redknapp then snapped: "Bring the bible up here again and I will put my hand on it." The manager hit back at suggestions that he had deliberately sought to evade tax, adding: "I'm the most ungreedy person you have met in your whole life, Mr Black. Ever. Ever."

Here doughnut bollocks: http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/bungpuss-finally-up-before-the-beak.287739/
 
If 'ethnic Pakistani' is racist you'd better let the Census people know, and the millions who describe themselves as such. But thanks for your insight. It was a response in kind - in the shape of a pointless descriptor - to an unpleasant, unthinking oaf who knows pretty well everyone in this thread has him on ignore when the bloody thing works.

Oh yeah, that's why you decided to bring ethinicisity into this.

It's not that LC's a biggot, its just the bad influence his getting from the national cencus people. Jesus, have a fucking think!

Its ok for you to be offended, but if we're still discussing your comeback, its cultural context clearly doesn't have anything in common with what you call "ageism". Its not like there's hip young nazis out there discriminating against twitter inept oldies. Its eugenics, imperialism & apartheid vs. patronizing people due to age stereotypes -a wee difference. Have you thought about retreting a bit?
 
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