Tory UK EU Exit Referendum

[brogdale]

Oh


In that case;

WW3 will start if we vote to leave, it will be the end of days, if only the EU would have renegotiated a treaty or two it could all have been avoided, but millions dead is small price to pay.


Better?

 

[gosub]

At least his week ends on a Sunday

 

[Greebozz]

For myself, I truly understand the depression and despondency of living in a conquered and subjugated country. This is how I feel about Britain's relation to Europe. Having no control over who comes into this country, is exactly the same as a country that has been conquered, it makes no difference that Britain has been tricked by treaty rather than losing a war.

The sense that the fabric of society has changed irrevocably, Britain now a land of overcrowded spaces, shortages of accommodation and loud groups speaking in unidentifiable foreign languages everywhere. Generally people trying to make Britain in exactly like the culture and country they came from.

It's depressing in the same way as a proud and dynamic business owner signing a dodgy contract and finding himself an anonymous wage slave with no power and no control over his businesses destiny.

The most painful blow of all is the British citizens determined to their dying breath to give Britain a way, let it be swallowed up by a European super state. It's as painful as a parent seeing their own child denounce them to the authorities in some hideous totalitarian regime in history.

All the while more people come to Britain, delighted to be here, adventurers staking out claims as if uninhabited lands to be colonised.

 

[laptop]

For myself, I truly understand the depression and despondency of living in a conquered and subjugated country. This is how I feel about Britain's relation to Europe. Having no control over who comes into this country, is exactly the same as a country that has been conquered, it makes no difference that Britain has been tricked by treaty rather than losing a war.

I take it you're planning to apply for a job as the UK Border Force so that you do have control.

Who will you be turning away?

Why?

Will you set up posts at Berwick? Hereford?

 

[weltweit]

Reads a bit paranoid Greebozz there. Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and England have been united in the UK for years, we manage to cope without feeling diminished, being in the EU needn't be more onerous than that.

 

[Pickman's model]

Reads a bit paranoid Greebozz there. Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and England have been united in the UK for years, we manage to cope without feeling diminished, being in the EU needn't be more onerous than that.

Did you miss the events in the six counties from 1969 on? Very fucking united, I must say

 

[butchersapron]

For myself, I truly understand the depression and despondency of living in a conquered and subjugated country. This is how I feel about Britain's relation to Europe. Having no control over who comes into this country, is exactly the same as a country that has been conquered, it makes no difference that Britain has been tricked by treaty rather than losing a war.

The sense that the fabric of society has changed irrevocably, Britain now a land of overcrowded spaces, shortages of accommodation and loud groups speaking in unidentifiable foreign languages everywhere. Generally people trying to make Britain in exactly like the culture and country they came from.

It's depressing in the same way as a proud and dynamic business owner signing a dodgy contract and finding himself an anonymous wage slave with no power and no control over his businesses destiny.

The most painful blow of all is the British citizens determined to their dying breath to give Britain a way, let it be swallowed up by a European super state. It's as painful as a parent seeing their own child denounce them to the authorities in some hideous totalitarian regime in history.

All the while more people come to Britain, delighted to be here, adventurers staking out claims as if uninhabited lands to be colonised.

What drivel.

 

[Nine Bob Note]

It's not set in stone. Or pen for that matter.

He almost had to bill us for a new diary there

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I take it you're planning to apply for a job as the UK Border Force so that you do have control.

Who will you be turning away?

Guessing it won't be Danish folk.

 

[Greebozz]

What drivel.

oh god so you're one of the Nazi youth denouncing their parents. Are you one of the volunteer moral police that has such self-hatred towards the country you want to see it destroyed. Or are you an immigrant yourself?

 

[butchersapron]

oh god so you're one of the Nazi youth denouncing their parents. Are you one of the volunteer moral police that has such self-hatred towards the country you want to see it destroyed. Or are you an immigrant yourself?

More drivel. Racist drivel at that.

 

[weltweit]

Did you miss the events in the six counties from 1969 on? Very fucking united, I must say

hmm.

Interesting though that there is a movement in Scotland to gain independence from the UK but not from the EU, and in Catalonia there is also a movement to gain independence from Spain but not from the EU.

 

[Greebozz]

More drivel. Racist drivel at that.

I've written something which is exactly how I feel, I put time and effort into it. You can't argue with how I feel, and you've written two dumb comments, "Drivel, racist drivel", that's your sum total. I'm not replying to you I'm replying to the hundreds of people who read this board but don't post comments.

 

[weltweit]

For myself, I truly understand the depression and despondency of living in a conquered and subjugated country. This is how I feel about Britain's relation to Europe. Having no control over who comes into this country, is exactly the same as a country that has been conquered, it makes no difference that Britain has been tricked by treaty rather than losing a war.

The sense that the fabric of society has changed irrevocably, Britain now a land of overcrowded spaces, shortages of accommodation and loud groups speaking in unidentifiable foreign languages everywhere. Generally people trying to make Britain in exactly like the culture and country they came from.

It's depressing in the same way as a proud and dynamic business owner signing a dodgy contract and finding himself an anonymous wage slave with no power and no control over his businesses destiny.

The most painful blow of all is the British citizens determined to their dying breath to give Britain a way, let it be swallowed up by a European super state. It's as painful as a parent seeing their own child denounce them to the authorities in some hideous totalitarian regime in history.

All the while more people come to Britain, delighted to be here, adventurers staking out claims as if uninhabited lands to be colonised.

Do you think California feels conquered and subjugated? or Florida, NY?

 

[butchersapron]

I've written something which is exactly how I feel, I put time and effort into it. You can't argue with how I feel, and you've written two dumb comments, "Drivel, racist drivel", that's your sum total. I'm not replying to you I'm replying to the hundreds of people who read this board but don't post comments.

Lucky us. Save us the time reading more drivel.

Boo hoo, i really think this stupid paranoid racist thing and i spent a good 10 minutes writing it. Respect me and my drivel.

 

[irf520]

This is all immaterial, according the pig fucking fella we're looking at WW3 if we vote to leave. If that is true it would seem a tad silly of the old cad to have called the referendum in the first place.

Especially considering that he was supposedly "prepared to leave" if he didn't get what he wanted during his "renegotiation":

David Cameron: I'm ready to lead Britain out of Europe if migrant reforms fail

 

[gosub]

Did you miss the events in the six counties from 1969 on? Very fucking united, I must say

One of Heaths mutterings was EUrope would make the troubles irrelevant.

Shame about the fractionalism it's caused elsewhere.....

UK is going to have to federalize if it does get through this (not easy identities of places like Hampshire don't fit well into those structures)


If Salmond had said he was going race rUK into EFTA, I might of voted Yes.

 

[weltweit]

I see IDS today trying to position himself as the champion of the underdog again.

 

[gosub]

Especially considering that he was supposedly "prepared to leave" if he didn't get what he wanted during his "renegotiation":

David Cameron: I'm ready to lead Britain out of Europe if migrant reforms fail

I can buy that his 'negotiations' (he got fuck all) was a learning curve on how precarious the EU is at the mo.

 

[gosub]

For all his and Corbyn's talk of staying in , and providing leadership, negotiations should have included an exit mechanism for the EUro, IF we stay in, it doesn't collapse through its own contradictions that puts us on bad guy side on a war. We still end up as an outer orbit associate that will be lonelier than we'd like.

 

[Obediah Marsh]

For myself, I truly understand the depression and despondency of living in a conquered and subjugated country. This is how I feel about Britain's relation to Europe. Having no control over who comes into this country, is exactly the same as a country that has been conquered, it makes no difference that Britain has been tricked by treaty rather than losing a war.

The British government has full control over who comes into this country. Claims to the contrary are ignorant or dishonest.

 

[Obediah Marsh]

If a protectionist U.S. administration decides to pummel British exporters, what can Britain do to defend itself? If that were to happen now, there would be immediate EU-wide retaliatory tariffs on U.S. exports. That's a powerful insurance policy. Britain on its own simply wouldn't have that kind of clout.

 

[gosub]

Probably worth pointing out that vote Leave's offical position is that matters post a leave vote down to the government

 

[gosub]

If a protectionist U.S. administration decides to pummel British exporters, what can Britain do to defend itself? If that were to happen now, there would be immediate EU-wide retaliatory tariffs on U.S. exports. That's a powerful insurance policy. Britain on its own simply wouldn't have that kind of clout.

Hypothetical, in that current position is TTIP negotiations, but not implausible looking at US Presidentials. Swiss relationship with EU is shakey, EFTA with UK and Switzerland in it 4th largest trading bloc in the world

 

[bi0boy]

First they came for the vacuum cleaners: EU to launch kettle and toaster crackdown after Brexit vote

 

[stethoscope]

First they came for the vacuum cleaners: EU to launch kettle and toaster crackdown after Brexit vote

They keep re-hashing this one. Still, easier to concentrate on stuff like this than their own class/capital interests.

 

[Greebozz]

Do you think California feels conquered and subjugated? or Florida, NY?

I had A "Free Tibet" T-shirt one time, I wonder how they feel about the convoys of Chinese people immigrating to their country. Britain seems to be the only country that has a anti-nationalism police force but every culture, religion and race the comes to Britain is an nationalistic to their own country to the most incredible extent. Because we don't really mix with other communities, don't get me wrong the intelligent people do, there are good honourable people everywhere but there is another strata, a dumber powerbase interested in control and furthering their own interests.

I love British culture, I feel we importing people who don't know what British culture is and are bringing their own backward, prejudiced and nationalistic interests to this country for their own gain.

 

[stethoscope]

I love British culture, I feel we importing people who don't know what British culture is and are bringing their own backward, prejudiced and nationalistic interests to this country for their own gain.

Fuck off. Cheers.

 

[teqniq]

Because we don't really mix with other communities, don't get me wrong the intelligent people do, there are good honourable people everywhere

Make your mind up, anyway this is proper car-crash shit.

 

[newbie]

If a protectionist U.S. administration decides to pummel British exporters, what can Britain do to defend itself? If that were to happen now, there would be immediate EU-wide retaliatory tariffs on U.S. exports. That's a powerful insurance policy. Britain on its own simply wouldn't have that kind of clout.

That's not the hypothetical that's most likely though, the US has bigger fish to fry. What's more likely is a post-Brexit UK government under domestic political and capital pressure will do the pummeling itself. Tear up as much social, economic, financial and employment regulations and protections as they can. Turn Britain into an offshore tax bridgehead into, but also in direct competition with, the more regulated EU. As soon as the vote is in, if they win the Leavers will be clamouring to make Britain competitive, they won't need a protectionist US administration, although they'll welcome any assistance they can get.

And no-one has yet given any indication of what forces there are in society to stop them, except that some EU regulations will continue.