Well, disruption of capital is disruption of process of investment, no? ie disruption of borrowing/lending mechanisms - either loans aren't forthcoming or loans are defaulted on, or both. ie Greece. How do you disrupt that process without causing unemployment to rise, living standards to fall, and worker rights being squeezed?
looks like it says Socialist Party of Great Britain at the top of the picture, so probably whatever their paper is called
Well Remain says Leave = Tories and Tories = Trident and everyone knows Trident = Peace.
well why not just vote leave out of spite to the wankers who did the greeks over and continue to do so? Them and their trading club that has somehow become mightier than the will of an electorate. No ones storming the winter palace here are they. Sneering libs have been insinuating heavily that the lexit case is revo fantasy stuff but then they are smelling their own farts and loving them again
This is itself a sneer. This thread is oozing with the sneer 'liberal' against anyone who might, for instance, have concerns over losing their job.
Fuck knows
It's all very depressing.
It really underlines how absent any kind of "Left-ish" ideas, never mind concrete forces, are at the moment (certainly in England). We're not even in this game.
Neither Brexit nor Remain are any sort of victory. They're both defeats. No sense painting them any other way.
I guess we can argue about which is the more damaging defeat for us.
*sighs*
Forgive me. It just seems politically bleaker than I can ever recall out there right now.
No, the reality isn't that clear, but the time is coming when Project Wishful Thinking has to start delivering some clarity. We know Project Fear has been overhyped, repeating that over and again doesn't move anything forward.
it's not though, is it? I said above that "one way to "develop working class struggle" is to make life harder and conditions ever less favourable for the workers." and got a lecture about the four horsemen.
capital was very happy as governments fell over themselves to thrust money into the banksters' capacious coffers.
and organised labour bent over backwards to reduce hours and take pay cuts in order to have some hope of a job in the future. The precariat got hammered. Benefit cuts were immediately necessary.
i don't recall unionised people in my sectors bending over backwards to reduce hours and take pay cuts. perhaps you could point to some examples.
I'm open to "left" arguments for leaving the EU. But they all seem too hand-wavy or wishful-thinking for me to be persuaded by.
don't you work in the public sector?
