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I don't get that Miliband fucked this up. More relaxed than Cameron, and facing a hostile audience was a known - Lab HQ moaning yesterday that BBC had again bent over backwards to Tories and were going to flood it with their suppoorters (probably after loon comments after last debate, saying a typical lefty audience, farage etc). Lots of small business owners, few hard working people, but in the same way as farage was talking to the audience at home, so was Miliband.
For one of a few times, Labour has countered the over spending - Obama comment ..should have also used %age of GDP spent was same as Major..and that the idiotic Byrne letter was left by most outgoing chancellors to the nnew one.

But, overall, don't think this has gone bad for him.

The Sun already called it for Cameron at 6pm anyway.
 
I don't get that Miliband fucked this up. More relaxed than Cameron, and facing a hostile audience was a known - Lab HQ moaning yesterday that BBC had again bent over backwards to Tories and were going to flood it with their suppoorters (probably after loon comments after last debate, saying a typical lefty audience, farage etc). Lots of small business owners, few hard working people, but in the same way as farage was talking to the audience at home, so was Miliband.
For one of a few times, Labour has countered the over spending - Obama comment ..should have also used %age of GDP spent was same as Major..and that the idiotic Byrne letter was left by most outgoing chancellors to the nnew one.

But, overall, don't think this has gone bad for him.

The Sun already called it for Cameron at 6pm anyway.

I think Miliband did the opposite. Was far too busy appeasing the individual questioner and less about getting his message to the viewers at home.

But. Time will tell.
 
"Mr Miliband, will you purge the faction of your party that allowed criminals to ruin our economy with their tory policies? Would you support the prosecution of the last 2 Labour leaders for war crimes?"

2 more glaring questions no "journalist" has thought to ask in months of"debate ".

And I bet this this the first time Eastenders made way for something more depressing.
 
Sturgeon has won this debate without uttering a word.
I didn't watch it but Scottish twitter has exploded because Miliband said he'd give up government if it required any sort of deal with the SNP. Given that polls suggest we're going to return an SNP MP in almost every seat, he's basically said Scots shouldn't have any say in the government of the UK and he'd rather put the Tories back in than see that happen.
 
I think Miliband did the opposite. Was far too busy appeasing the individual questioner and less about getting his message to the viewers at home.

But. Time will tell.




I definitely agree he did that, all the toe curling ;what was your name again?'...but he couldn't afford to be hostile to a hostile questioner - most were. I think that would go well with the sickly floating voter at home. Maybe I'm just surprised to hear those arguments (didn't over spend, rebalance economy, reasons welfare's risen, tax receipts fell etc from any one Labour, after five years..and without Nick Robinson moderating and explaining it..
Many at home will also be employed by those small business owners, wanting lower pay and zero hours..think it might resonate...or stop enough from going to the vermin..all that's needed (in the next week anyway)
 
I didn't watch it but Scottish twitter has exploded because Miliband said he'd give up government if it required any sort of deal with the SNP. Given that polls suggest we're going to return an SNP MP in almost every seat, he's basically said Scots shouldn't have any say in the government of the UK and he'd rather put the Tories back in than see that happen.
He basically defined a deal as a formal "Confidence and Supply Agreement".

Implicitly he was saying that he would govern as a Labour minority gov. IMO it was a mistake not to say that explicitly.
 
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