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[two sheds]

true although when there's a north wind we just get it afterwards

 

[A380]

Nah, they're definitely a real Guardsman. Probably Coldstream. They have a penchant for lurking, as Bob Boothby MP well knew.

“Makes you proud to be British”.

 

[ska invita]

Customers in Europe hit by post-Brexit charges when buying from UK

Shoppers tell of shock at unexpected bills for VAT or customs declarations as some retailers stop shipping to continent

www.theguardian.com

Charges starting to impact

 

[Winot]

Increasing evidence that the UK’s ability to act as a hub (import/re-export goods into EU) is finished:

Debenhams closes online in Ireland as 50 major UK retailers face EU tariffs | ITV News

It is no longer possible for Debenhams to deliver orders to the Republic of Ireland "due to uncertainty around post-Brexit trade rules".

www.itv.com

 

[Pickman's model]

i hear that british fishermen have been on a fact-finding mission to somalia, and that with somali help they will be repurposing their vessels to become real buccaneers. i don't suppose the hijacking of cargo ships and oil tankers sailing up the english channel is what boris johnson had in mind with his talk of a buccaneering britain but it's what increasing numbers of sailors will have to turn to now that the notion of britain as an entrepot to europe and the feted revival of the british fishing industry have turned to ashes in tory mouths

 

[SpookyFrank]

i hear that british fishermen have been on a fact-finding mission to somalia, and that with somali help they will be repurposing their vessels to become real buccaneers. i don't suppose the hijacking of cargo ships and oil tankers sailing up the english channel is what boris johnson had in mind with his talk of a buccaneering britain but it's what increasing numbers of sailors will have to turn to now that the notion of britain as an entrepot to europe and the feted revival of the british fishing industry have turned to ashes in tory mouths

60% of our piracy quota has already been sold to EU-based companies anyway.

 

[Pickman's model]

60% of our piracy quota has already been sold to EU-based companies anyway.

the people i am talking about have stuck up two fingers to johnson and his crappy quota

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Increasing evidence that the UK’s ability to act as a hub (import/re-export goods into EU) is finished:

Debenhams closes online in Ireland as 50 major UK retailers face EU tariffs | ITV News

It is no longer possible for Debenhams to deliver orders to the Republic of Ireland "due to uncertainty around post-Brexit trade rules".

www.itv.com

This is why Johnson's been waffling on about freeports.

 

[brogdale]

This is why Johnson's been waffling on about freeports.

Don't think "Freeports" fit with the deal struck, tbh...the suprastate will be all over that like a rash...

 

[Roadkill]

Don't think "Freeports" fit with the deal struck, tbh...the suprastate will be all over that like a rash...

It depends a bit on exactly what 'freeport' means, since it's a bit of a moveable feast, but Britain actually had freeports until about 2012. They didn't achieve anything and were one of the few things no-one really cared about when they fell prey to Osbornomics. Talk of freeports now is mainly piss and wind, as far as I can see.

 

[brogdale]

It depends a bit on exactly what 'freeport' means, since it's a bit of a moveable feast, but Britain actually had freeports until about 2012. They didn't achieve anything and were one of the few things no-one really cared about when they fell prey to Osbornomics. Talk of freeports now is mainly piss and wind, as far as I can see.

Yeah, I'd imagine the supra-state would be cool with entities that didn't achieve anything...it would be if they did that they'd kick off.

 

[Pickman's model]

This is why Johnson's been waffling on about freeports.

there's a convention concerning them at the qe2 conference centre on the 16th

only in the quaint english way they'll be officially designated fairports

 

[brogdale]

there's a convention concerning them at the qe2 conference centre on the 16th

only in the quaint english way they'll be officially designated fairports

Who knows where the tariffs go?

 

[Supine]

Talk of freeports now is mainly piss and wind, as far as I can see.

They are good for money laundering which might be why the current tories like the idea so much.

 

[Pickman's model]

Who knows where the tariffs go?

johnson and his cabal have deep pockets and offshore bank accounts.

 

[brogdale]

johnson and his cabal have deep pockets and offshore bank accounts.

Especially that Sir Patrick Spens, eh?

 

[Roadkill]

They are good for money laundering which might be why the current tories like the idea so much.

That is true, although frankly there are so many other money-laundering opportunities that I'm not sure they'd make that much difference!

 

[Pickman's model]

Especially that Sir Patrick Spens, eh?

it's well known sir patrick spends

 

[Artaxerxes]

 

[Roadkill]

I meant to post that video of Perkes. It's grimly funny, given that he was vocally pro-leave until recently.

 

[The39thStep]

Increasing evidence that the UK’s ability to act as a hub (import/re-export goods into EU) is finished:

Debenhams closes online in Ireland as 50 major UK retailers face EU tariffs | ITV News

It is no longer possible for Debenhams to deliver orders to the Republic of Ireland "due to uncertainty around post-Brexit trade rules".

www.itv.com

Debenhams closed all their online euro outlets with the exception of Ireland mid summer due to their precarious financial status .

 

[Winot]

Debenhams closed all their online euro outlets with the exception of Ireland mid summer due to their precarious financial status .

Well that probably explains why they’ve fallen first. Let’s see if it’s a one-off or a sign of things to come.

 

[Flavour]

Debenhams is a twitching corpse tbf

 

[The39thStep]

Well that probably explains why they’ve fallen first. Let’s see if it’s a one-off or a sign of things to come.

Anything touched by Ashley doesn't always turn to gold tbh

 

[ska invita]

Doesnt sound too good for those affected

Brexit: Problems grow at UK ports with backlogs and delays

Many retailers believe they will be paying taxes on exports of goods that are not fully made in Britain.

www.bbc.co.uk

this was from yesterday, posted on other thread by mistake

Customers in Europe hit by post-Brexit charges when buying from UK

Shoppers tell of shock at unexpected bills for VAT or customs declarations as some retailers stop shipping to continent

www.theguardian.com

 

[brogdale]

You Brexit bastards!

Percy Pig has emerged as one of the first casualties of Brexit red tape, with Marks & Spencer warning that the famous pink sweets it sells in its Irish stores could be hit with new import taxes.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Despite the stockpiling that went on before Christmas, in an attempt to avoid the worst impact of brexit, there have still been problems in getting in the normally expected supplies of both food and medicines. Some of the shortages have been more acute than others, and yet still brexit supporters continue to challenge the idea that anything has in fact changed.

 

[Smangus]

Love a good shrotage!

 

[Anju]

Some more fish people having problems with non tariff barriers.

UK fishermen halting exports to EU as ‘catastrophic’ Brexit bureaucracy renders business unviable

Perishable seafood first casualty of Boris Johnson’s new trade barriers

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Smangus]

Trouble is that people mistake tariffs for duty and tax. Tariffs are imposed on top of these - wto rules etc. Now we are out of the SM tax and duty are charged even if we are tariff free.