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The US has some serious issues, my neighbour in the UK has a number of guns for hunting, never seen them. In 9 years. I went to the US and saw more in one day then I have ever seen before or since in that amount of time, including the Bulgarian Military base.
 
newme said:
The US has some serious issues, my neighbour in the UK has a number of guns for hunting, never seen them. In 9 years. I went to the US and saw more in one day then I have ever seen before or since in that amount of time, including the Bulgarian Military base.
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pbsmooth said:
The worse it gets the more they want guns. The bad guys / police / government have guns so we should be allowed to have them too. Crazy place.
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Doesn't this mean that the liberal anti-gun position has failed completely, and that a return to the drawing board is long overdue?

There was a shooting the other day at a uni where a friend of mine used to work. I emailed her about it and she says it is truly cuckoo for cocoa puffs over there, where bang sticks are concerned. Maybe liberal moderation is no longer an option?
 
Idris2002 said:
Doesn't this mean that the liberal anti-gun position has failed completely, and that a return to the drawing board is long overdue?

There was a shooting the other day at a uni where a friend of mine used to work. I emailed her about it and she says it is truly cuckoo for cocoa puffs over there, where bang sticks are concerned. Maybe liberal moderation is no longer an option?
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Liberal in the US? There is no major party that represents this.

Gun reform worked in every single country in the world that actually did it properly, aka, over the entire country at once.

Not sure why continuing school and other place shootings are anything but a huge problem that no one is dealing with properly. This state by state approach just moves it a couple hundred miles and people have cars now.

Get proper licensing in place and it works. Its a pain to get access to these things in those countries but it should be. It will never happen in the US cos well right to shoot people is viewed as above the right of people not to get shot.
 
newme said:
Liberal in the US? There is no major party that represents this.

Gun reform worked in every single country in the world that actually did it properly, aka, over the entire country at once.

Not sure why continuing school and other place shootings are anything but a huge problem that no one is dealing with properly. This state by state approach just moves it a couple hundred miles and people have cars now.

Get proper licensing in place and it works. Its a pain to get access to these things in those countries but it should be. It will never happen in the US cos well right to shoot people is viewed as above the right of people not to get shot.
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In Sierra Leone, it took the horrors of the civil war of the 1990s to produce hard core gun reform. Even the traditional hunters went back to bows and arrows. What kind of disaster would it for that to happen in the USA?
 
Idris2002 said:
In Sierra Leone, it took the horrors of the civil war of the 1990s to produce hard core gun reform. Even the traditional hunters went back to bows and arrows. What kind of disaster would it for that to happen in the USA?
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It simply won't. The state by state approach ruins everything. Look at the state of women's rights now. Or marijuana laws. Or well just about everything.

Also the republican stuffed bench will deny anything. NRA also bought half the politicians on both sides at minimum with this skewing towards a particular party. The concept of them existing with actual political power is bizarre to everywhere else
 
newme said:
It simply won't. The state by state approach ruins everything. Look at the state of women's rights now. Or marijuana laws. Or well just about everything.

Also the republican stuffed bench will deny anything. NRA also bought half the politicians on both sides at minimum with this skewing towards a particular party. The concept of them existing with actual political power is bizarre to everywhere else
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Neither revolution nor civil war, just a continuing, steady, slow puncture.
 
JimW said:
Six dead in a tiny settlement on the Mississippi-Tennessee border: Mississippi shooting: Gunman kills six including ex-wife and stepfather in small rural town
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An awful tragedy of course, but I don't know why it seems to be a top story in outlets worldwide - some fucking loser in Mississippi killed his ex-wife and five other people because he was having a shitty day or whatever and he had ready access to guns.

It doesn't seem like it should be any bigger news than a car crash that killed six people, the US and states like Mississippi in particular have chosen to have loose gun laws, more shitheads shooting more people is an inevitable result.
 
Rural Mississippi is also probably the last place in the entire US that would be willing to accept any kind of gun ban - not only is it the poorest part of the poorest state in the US, where hunters are most likely to be hunting for food instead of sport, there's an infestation of feral hogs so fierce and numerous that it might be the only plausible argument for civilians to own AR-15s.
 
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Wow - farmers keeping hogs from eating their crops is one thing, anybody who considers this a fun day out should probably be on some kind of watchlist.

"Hands trembling with excitement as the remainder of the hogs run for cover. Reload the machine gun and engage! This is the coolest thing ever."
 
Yossarian said:
Wow - farmers keeping hogs from eating their crops is one thing, anybody who considers this a fun day out should probably be on some kind of watchlist.

"Hands trembling with excitement as the remainder of the hogs run for cover. Reload the machine gun and engage! This is the coolest thing ever."
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Bet you could train pigs to operate a machine to shoot at hunters or a helicopter. Then we'll see how the fucking shits like it
 
Yossarian said:
It doesn't seem like it should be any bigger news than a car crash that killed six people,
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Maybe that's a sign of how road deaths are under reported. More people are killed on the roads in the US than die in non-suicide gun deaths, yet it's never taken as a sign that society is on the brink of collapse the way gun deaths are.
 
maomao said:
Maybe that's a sign of how road deaths are under reported. More people are killed on the roads in the US than die in non-suicide gun deaths, yet it's never taken as a sign that society is on the brink of collapse the way gun deaths are.
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Can you work out why that might be?
 
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