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The American mass shooting thread

Paul Auster and his son-in-law Spencer Ostrander have produced a book, Bloodbath Nation about Americans' relationship with the gun, historically, socially and constitutionally, in the hope of initiating a discussion on how to end this violence. Auster has written the text, which is part memoir, and Ostrander has photographed the sites of shootings as a memorial to the dead.
There's a long extract from the book here: Paul Auster: ‘The gun that killed my grandfather was the same gun that ruined my father’s life’
and Gary Younge reviews it rather critically here: Bloodbath Nation by Paul Auster review – US gun violence under the microscope Younge was hoping for some suggestions about how the discussion might go, or even begin, but the book doesn't give them.
 
Fucking hell, at least 10 dead, according to unconfirmed reports - this being California, right-wing trolls are already pushing the "gun control doesn't work" line.
Confirmed as ten.

Ten people have died following a shooting at a ballroom dance studio in the Californian city of Monterey Park, police said.
Police say another 10 people are injured and the suspect remains at large.
The shooting happened at about 22:20 local time on Saturday (06:20 GMT on Sunday).
Thousands of people had earlier gathered in the city for the Monterey Park Lunar New Year festival.
The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department said they are seeking a male suspect who fled the scene but did not provide any other details about him.
Captain Andrew Meyer said that emergency services arrived on the scene and found patrons "pouring out of the location screaming".
Officers then confirmed 10 people had died.
At least 10 others have been injured and are in local hospitals, where their conditions vary from stable to critical.
Investigators said there was no clear motive and it was too early to say whether the incident was being treated as a hate crime.

 
Unless there's something the public isn't being told, seems like there's a weirdly low level of communication from police that must be very stressful for people in the area - from what cops have said publicly, a mass shooter described as "a man" has been at large for close to 12 hours.
 
Unless there's something the public isn't being told, seems like there's a weirdly low level of communication from police that must be very stressful for people in the area - from what cops have said publicly, a mass shooter described as "a man" has been at large for close to 12 hours.

Now being reported as possibly an Asian man, but yeah seems to be very little communicated. I guess this is simply because they haven't caught him yet and there must be quite a lot of confusion and conflicting accounts from witnesses. Who knows what the motive is.


I was in LA just two days ago actually, came to the US to celebrate Chinese New Year with my Taiwanese in-laws (my brother in law lives in the US). We were staying in Korea town which is some distance from where the attack was, but still felt a little shocking to see this news, feels a bit too much like it could have been us. We've chosen not to mention the news to my parents-in-law - it's their first time out of Taiwan and don't want to frighten them unnecessarily. But if it does turn out to be a hate crime specifically targeting Asians and the shooter is still at large, might have to skip our plans to go for hotpot in LA when we get back.
 
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The gunman is reportedly a 72-year-old truck driver from China with a specific grudge against the ballroom dance studio where the shooting took place - doesn't make it any less of a tragedy, of course, but it's probably a relief to the wider community that it doesn't seem to have been an anti-Asian hate crime.

A friend told CNN that Tran went to the dance studio “almost every night” years ago, but he complained that instructors said “evil things about him,” and he was “hostile to a lot of people there.”
 
The gunman is reportedly a 72-year-old truck driver from China with a specific grudge against the ballroom dance studio where the shooting took place - doesn't make it any less of a tragedy, of course, but it's probably a relief to the wider community that it doesn't seem to have been an anti-Asian hate crime.

A friend told CNN that Tran went to the dance studio “almost every night” years ago, but he complained that instructors said “evil things about him,” and he was “hostile to a lot of people there.”

From China with a name like Tran? That's a Vietnamese name, no?
 
From China with a name like Tran? That's a Vietnamese name, no?

Yeah - maybe he's ethnically Chinese and left Vietnam for China or Hong Kong during the war, he's the right age for it.

Tran was an immigrant from China, according to a copy of his marriage license that his ex-wife showed to CNN.
 
More killings....

At least four people are dead following separate shootings in Half Moon Bay, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation.

Three victims were found at a location on San Mateo Road (Highway 92). A fourth victim was found at a nearby location, the source said.

A suspect has been taken into custody, according to the San Mateo County Sheriff's Office.

"There is no ongoing threat to the community at this time," the sheriff's office said in a tweet just before 5 p.m.

Authorities asked the public to avoid Highway 92 between Highway 1 and Highway 35.


 
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Death toll now 7 in the Half Moon Bay shooting, all Chinese American farm workers - I don't think there's been many, if any, mass shootings carried out by Chinese Americans before, now there's been two in three days, committed by two of the oldest mass shooters in US history.

 
I don't think there's been many, if any, mass shootings carried out by Chinese Americans before, now there's been two in three days, committed by two of the oldest mass shooters in US history.

Now if I were a conspiracy nutter, I'd say that they've got a quota to fulfill, so they're knocking off a few underrepresented groups right there. It's political correctness gone mad.
 
Now if I were a conspiracy nutter, I'd say that they've got a quota to fulfill, so they're knocking off a few underrepresented groups right there. It's political correctness gone mad.

I guess it's a very stressful or upsetting time of year for a lot of people, though I don't remember many previous Chinese New Year shooting rampages.
 
And a third California mass shooting in three days, 1 dead and 7 injured in Oakland in what witnesses said was a shootout during the filming of a music video.

 
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