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Instead of arming the teachers, why not lock the school doors?

Every elementary school around here lock all the doors. If you want in, you have to use the door bell or buzzer.
It has been that way for more than 20 years.....
 
Beyond words. Little kids. And they're still sat there talking about arming teachers. Just ban the fucking guns. It's not difficult you absolute fucking lunatics.

People are stupid. We're all stupid. As a species we are so unutterably fucking dumb. And you think we should all have guns?
 
As The Onion will say, "'No Way to Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens" :(

Something came up on my YouTube feed the other day where someone apparently DEMOLISHES the argument that gun control would have any effect on this sort of thing.

Apparently a lot of “studies show…” etc going on.

Why the fuck do they think there are a whole bunch of countries that don’t have this shit happening all the time??

Then again, as has been pointed out by many, there are countries where you can walk into many a regular shop and buy guns and ammo and they don’t have these kinds of shootings.

There’s a little irrational part of me, unschooled in advanced statistics, that thinks that it might help A BIT if you at least had a bit of good old runaround bureaucratic hassle before you could buy the kind of ordnance usually associated with a military coup, though.
 
Instead of arming the teachers, why not lock the school doors?

Every elementary school around here lock all the doors. If you want in, you have to use the door bell or buzzer.
It has been that way for more than 20 years.....

Fuck Canada.

Meanwhile, Cruz gets it so very wrong again.


"Texas Senator Ted Cruz described the Uvalde shooting as "truly horrific", but said gun reforms were not the way to prevent such crimes.

Speaking to reporters, he said that restricting the rights of "law-abiding citizens... doesn't work. It's not effective. It doesn't prevent crime."

He said "going after felons" is what prevents such crimes and he criticised other politicians for trying to "advance their own political agenda" by calling for gun control."
 
How rude!!!

I agree. I’ve never been to Canada and what I imagine it’s like is almost certainly very inaccurate, but one of those things is nice! :mad:

And verdant. With very big trees and strange animals and bands that make lilting alt-rock that makes fishing less boring.

Sorry, getting whimsical on a dark thread… :oops:
 
They never learn. They never made moves after Sandy Hook, and they still won’t make moves now.

Imagine having to prepare school kids for a mass shooting when the only worry in their daily school lives is what’s for lunch and when does the day finish. What a fucking horrendous country.
 
I agree. I’ve never been to Canada and what I imagine it’s like is almost certainly very inaccurate, but one of those things is nice! :mad:

And verdant. With very big trees and strange animals and bands that make lilting alt-rock that makes fishing less boring.

Sorry, getting whimsical on a dark thread… :oops:

Did you see Serge Forward 's trip?


/derail
 
As a parent myself I cannot imagine the pain these families must be going through. If my little boy got taken like this I truly believe I'd go the same way. I'm so sorry for them.

Ted Cruz... Well. what can you say. Yes, let's put more guns into school, that'll sort it. I imagine if that had been his own kids' school he might be slightly less bullish.
 
Gun shooting are common down in States.
It is a daily occurrence and they seem to be content with it, or they would do something.

from the national post

– BUFFALO, May 14, 2022 – A white gunman killed 10 Black people inside a supermarket in a racially motivated attack. He was charged and remains in jail without bail.

– NEW YORK CITY, April 12, 2022 – In one of the most violent attacks in the history of New York’s transit system, 23 people were wounded when a 62-year-old man activated a smoke bomb and opened fire in a subway. He was taken into custody the next day.

– OXFORD, Nov. 30, 2021 – Four students were killed and seven other people were wounded after a teenager opened fire at a high school in Oxford, Michigan.

– INDIANAPOLIS, April 16, 2021 – A former FedEx employee who had been under psychiatric care shot eight people dead and injured several others at an Indiana facility of the shipping company before taking his own life.

– LOS ANGELES, March 31, 2021 – Four people were killed, one of them a child, in a shooting at an office building in suburban Los Angeles before the suspect was taken into custody.

– BOULDER, March 22, 2021 – A mass shooting at a supermarket in Boulder, Colorado left 10 people dead, including a police officer.

– ATLANTA, March 16, 2021 – Eight people, including six women of Asian descent, were shot dead in a string of attacks at day spas in and around Atlanta. A male suspect was arrested.

– MILWAUKEE, Feb. 26, 2020 – A gunman opened fire at the Molson Coors Beverage Co brewing complex in Milwaukee, killing five co-workers before he committed suicide.


I hate reading stories of children being shot with ricochet bullet, being it on the highway going to school, the little girl shot on her front porch as she played with her doll, or the little boy shot while in his bed.

Nothing will change, it never will.
 
Unfortunately, they've updated the number of dead. It's now 19 children, two adults.

The people who read the news are usually pretty jaded, but I saw a couple of them break a little today. A couple of stations have interviewed Sandy Hook and Parkland parents. The frustration is overwhelming:



This is a Parkland father, who is understandably angry:



Sadly, I'm already seeing accusations that this is a fake. I'm afraid that these parents will be subjected to the same harassment that the Sandy Hook families have endured. Sick.
 
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Glad to think this will be the end of it, guns will be banned, and no one will.be facing military grade weapons in class rooms ever again.

The place is basically peak Terrorism. Terrorist acts, one after the other, bodies piling up, year after year.
 
... and no one will.be facing military grade weapons in class rooms ever again.
Worryingly, there's a very real possibility that in the future these shootings could get worse, alot worse. The US are about to change their main rifle / weapon from the lower power AR platform to a much more powerful upgrade (M5). These, in a semi automatic version, are already available for sale to the general public. They are capable of shooting through body armour and have a greater range over the AR
 


hmm studies that show gun control does not stop this kind of events most like funded by NRA types and gun lobbiest

real life examples of countrie were pretty stringent gun control has been inacted and oddly the number of events
of this magnatue was almost erridicated over night

Australia after port Albert and the UK after dunblane, of course the gun lobby in the states will scream and extermly small
numbers of gun related deaths one or 2 events over decades in both countries as examples of gun control not working



Screw Ted Cruz and Gov Abbott both puppets of the NRA
 
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