The 2019 General Election

[SpackleFrog]

Here's a thought - maybe they'd be even further behind without nationalisation as a policy? Maybe they're behind for some other reason?

You'd have thought you'd get something right by accident occasionally but it appears not.

Even stopped clocks but not DT.

 

[Don Troooomp]

Have you read "industries we asked about"?

Seems people don't want the police and army nationalised
Did they say all schools, or just the ones run by government at the moment ?
The poll asked really stupid questions that were guaranteed to get answers showing most people want nationalisation, but the election promises of buses and telecoms are 50/50 or just plain unpopular.
It's a stretch that doesn't work.

 

[SpackleFrog]

perhaps a reason like the last few years of relentless anti-corbyn nonsense like this gem from the mail website
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Fucking hell that's mad even for the Heil.

 

[teuchter]

Many congratulations to everyone debating with Don Troooomp . Amazing work.

 

[Pickman's model]

Have you read "industries we asked about"?

just a quick 'mea culpa' from you and we can move on from your lying about things i've said.

 

[danny la rouge]

That's just nasty, even for a troll job.

Tell Sid.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Tell Sid.

One for Generation X there.

 

[Don Troooomp]

Here's a thought - maybe they'd be even further behind without nationalisation as a policy? Maybe they're behind for some other reason?

Well ..

unpopular policies
unrealistic policies
A wanker posing as labour leader
A tory leader that's a daft cunt but a labour leader unable to show the fucking obvious
A labour party with no unified position on much

 

[Pickman's model]

Well ..

unpopular policies
unrealistic policies
A wanker posing as labour leader
A tory leader that's a daft cunt but a labour leader unable to show the fucking obvious
A labour party with no unified position on much

if the labour policies are so unpopular why are the tory party riffing them?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Can someone switch off the Don-bot?

 

[Pickman's model]

Can someone switch off the Don-bot?

editor, aqua, Lazy Llama or FridgeMagnet can throw the switch

 

[Don Troooomp]

you're a fraud and a fake and a tory-aiding cunt

Fuck off. Unpopular policies and an unpopular leader are the tories biggest friends here, and silly fuckers defending those ideals and the silly fucker leader.
Tory aiding - that's Corbyn and the left wing, and they're doing a fine job. I'd accuse them of being on the take from tory central office, but I think they're just too stupid to see what they're doing.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Or we could all just ignore the buffoon.

 

[maomao]

Nationalisation vs privatisation: the public view | YouGov

Bollocks. Most people, rightly, don't want the police and army in private hands, but telecoms can't even get to 40% support for nationalisation. Given that's one of the stated aims and the majority don't want it, Labour is wrong both politically and strategically.

They're not offering to nationalise telecoms only to build a proper fibre network and make it free at point of use. 62% of people across political affiliations think this is a good idea and only 22% out and out oppose it:

Survey shows public support for Labour free broadband plan

Please stop posting here.

 

[killer b]

Or we could all just ignore the buffoon.

I've tried doing that, but these threads end up looking really odd.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I've tried doing that, but these threads end up looking really odd.

Yes same here. It's like everyone else at the picnic flapping away a wasp you can't see.

 

[cupid_stunt]

They're not offering to nationalise telecoms only to build a proper fibre network and make it free at point of use. 62% of people across political affiliations think this is a good idea and only 22% out and out oppose it:

Survey shows public support for Labour free broadband plan

Please stop posting here.

The plan is to nationalise Openreach, which is by far the largest telecoms provider.

They have also said they will need to consider doing the same with other broadband/telecom networks, such as Virgin & CityFibre.

 

[Pickman's model]

Fuck off. Unpopular policies and an unpopular leader are the tories biggest friends here, and silly fuckers defending those ideals and the silly fucker leader.
Tory aiding - that's Corbyn and the left wing, and they're doing a fine job. I'd accuse them of being on the take from tory central office, but I think they're just too stupid to see what they're doing.

you don't know the difference between policies and ideals. which doesn't surprise me.

 

[maomao]

you don't know the difference between policies and ideals. which doesn't surprise me.

He doesn't know the difference between his arse and his fucking elbow.

 

[maomao]

The plan is to nationalise Openreach, which is by far the largest telecoms provider.

They have also said they will need to consider doing the same with other broadband/telecom networks, such as Virgin & CityFibre.

But not telephones so not the whole of 'telecoms'.

 

[elbows]

One for Generation X there.

 

[cupid_stunt]

But not telephones so not the whole of 'telecoms'.

You do realise the 'networks' they plan to nationalise, also carry telephone traffic, there isn't separate networks?

And, that if everyone has free fibre into the home, no one is going to be paying for a 'telephone line', as everyone will just switch to using 'voice over internet' phones?

 

[ruffneck23]

You do realise the 'networks' they plan to nationalise, also carry telephone traffic, there isn't separate networks?

And, that if everyone has free fibre into the home, no one is going to be paying for a 'telephone line', as everyone will just switch to using 'voice over internet' phones?

or just use their mobiles like they do now ?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Indeed.

 

[maomao]

You do realise the 'networks' they plan to nationalise, also carry telephone traffic, there isn't separate networks?

And, that if everyone has free fibre into the home, no one is going to be paying for a 'telephone line', as everyone will just switch to using 'voice over internet' phones?

Even better. Was this explained to the people who answered the yougov poll before Labour had even released their current policy which there is clear public support for.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Well ..

unpopular policies
unrealistic policies
A wanker posing as labour leader
A tory leader that's a daft cunt but a labour leader unable to show the fucking obvious
A labour party with no unified position on much

The policies are not unpopular or unrealistic. And Corbyn might be a wanker, sure, but he's not as much of a wanker as Starmer who you want or Johnson and none of these people not even Johnson is as much of an asinine fucking ballbag as you please shut up just stop.

E2A: AND the Labour Party had a unified position on Brexit until Remainiac CUNTS like you demanded it be changed if you remember the shitty policy on Brexit is to placate YOU.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

You do realise the 'networks' they plan to nationalise, also carry telephone traffic, there isn't separate networks?

And, that if everyone has free fibre into the home, no one is going to be paying for a 'telephone line', as everyone will just switch to using 'voice over internet' phones?

Cool.

This proposal isn't really so radical. Nationalised basic infrastructure as opposed to private monopolies is, as someone pointed out a while ago, Buttskellite really. It's something Adam Smith may have approved of.

 

[killer b]

why are you all having last week's argument again?

 

[maomao]

The policies are not unpopular or unrealistic. And Corbyn might be a wanker, sure, but he's not as much of a wanker as Starmer who you want or Johnson and none of these people not even Johnson is as much of an asinine fucking ballbag as you please shut up just stop.

E2A: AND the Labour Party had a unified position on Brexit until Remainiac CUNTS like you demanded it be changed if you remember the shitty policy on Brexit is to placate YOU.

If Starmer was leader the Mail would be calling him Keir Stalin and cunts like Trump would still be demanding the party shift right.

 

[The39thStep]

The policies are not unpopular or unrealistic. And Corbyn might be a wanker, sure, but he's not as much of a wanker as Starmer who you want or Johnson and none of these people not even Johnson is as much of an asinine fucking ballbag as you please shut up just stop.

E2A: AND the Labour Party had a unified position on Brexit until Remainiac CUNTS like you demanded it be changed if you remember the shitty policy on Brexit is to placate YOU.

Labours economic policies are popular, poll after poll confirms that. Its the rest of the baggage that comes with Labour thats the problem which means it has issues winning over many working class voters.