The 2019 General Election

[Voley]

What would your criticism of Corbyn be?

Brexit and antisemitism. All over the place on both.

 

[strung out]

Bristol East will stay with Kerry I have no doubt.

If Kingswood could swing it would be good.

I got a 'sorry I missed you' note from Kerry yesterday. Bit gutted, as I would have loved to tell her she had our support.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Brexit and antisemitism. All over the place on both.

I mean, he is a little bit all over the place on both but I've got this feeling you won't have anything useful to say on it.

 

[JTG]

I got a 'sorry I missed you' note from Kerry yesterday. Bit gutted, as I would have loved to tell her she had our support.

Have you persuaded the cat yet?

 

[killer b]

I mean, he is a little bit all over the place on both but I've got this feeling you won't have anything useful to say on it.

I'm not sure being brittle and defensive over some really mild criticism that you seem to mostly actually agree with is that useful either tbf.

 

[SpackleFrog]

I'm not sure being brittle and defensive over some really mild criticism that you seem to mostly actually agree with is that useful either tbf.

That is fair.

 

[Sue]

Fucking hell, when did everyone go Labour? I mean I know a few people did when Corbyn won the leadership but surprised people are not only still in but going out canvassing for them.

 

[William of Walworth]

Sue : Because they're anti-Tory?

 

[chilango]

Fucking hell, when did everyone go Labour? I mean I know a few people did when Corbyn won the leadership but surprised people are not only still in but going out canvassing for them.

Yeah. I've almost, almost, been tempted myself

(I haven't, and I won't, but...)

It's definitely "a thing". Even more than 2017.

 

[Marty1]

Interesting video report from Mahyar Tousi reporting on Dianne Abbott accidentally leaking Labours open border policy on twitter and Mahyar speaks to a few voters in Stevenage.

Spoiler

 

[Badgers]

The IEA eh?

 

[Badgers]

More from the IEA

New health secretary received £32,000 in donations from chair of think tank that wants NHS 'abolished'

 

[teqniq]

I wish someone would actually leak the thing rather than little drips of information here and there. Then at least we would know whether it was worth making a fuss about.

Russia report suppressed because Downing Street is concerned it raises questions over validity of referendum result

 

[teuchter]

Fucking hell, when did everyone go Labour? I mean I know a few people did when Corbyn won the leadership but surprised people are not only still in but going out canvassing for them.

I've been waiting for things to kick off on this front

 

[LDC]

Fucking hell, when did everyone go Labour? I mean I know a few people did when Corbyn won the leadership but surprised people are not only still in but going out canvassing for them.

Almost without exception all the 'anarchists' I know are not only voting for Labour, but are very, very excited about them and many of them are out canvassing for them too.

 

[danny la rouge]

Fucking hell, when did everyone go Labour? I mean I know a few people did when Corbyn won the leadership but surprised people are not only still in but going out canvassing for them.

It’s not something I’d advocate. Voting is one thing, but actually joining an electoral party and canvassing. Nope.

 

[Badgers]

FactCheck: Johnson wrong about Labour corporation tax

There are various ways to measure corporate tax rates, but stats from the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) show that on all standard measures, a 26 per cent rate would not see the UK take top spot as Mr Johnson claims.

Looking at the rate set by central governments, we’d be behind France, Portugal, Belgium, and Greece. The same is true when we look at the combined corporate income tax rate (a measure that includes taxes levelled locally, as happens in some countries outside the UK).

The Conservative Party were contacted for comment.

I look forward to the comment

 

[Teaboy]

Received my first tory leaflet through the post yesterday. A frankly quite bizarre piece of work which was mostly asking us about what campaign she should run. Also wittering on about Crossrail 2. Given Crossrail 1 is not finished yet and a bit of a hot potato to say the least its a bloody odd thing to build a campaign around. Also there are some other things going on at the moment which are a bit more important.

As per usual now in London, not one mention of Brexit or Johnson. They must fear being wiped out down here.

 

[chilango]

I think there's a number of factors at play in the collapse into Labour:

The weakness of the extra-parliamentary left.

Labour putting forward what is ostensibly the most Left-wing platform in most of our living memories.

The hegemony of liberalism within the movements - Brexit, idpol, climate change etc.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Almost without exception all the 'anarchists' I know are not only voting for Labour, but are very, very excited about them and many of them are out canvassing for them too.

Anarchists for ye

 

[chilango]

Also there's a pole of attraction on the edge of Labour that "we" can't match: Momentum, TWT, Novara Media, Acid Corbynism etc. and it's being articulated by some prominent faces (Sarkar, Jones, Blakeley, Mason etc.) who do "we" have?

 

[killer b]

All of the above, but mostly I'm motivated mainly by the desire to see those cunts weeping on the 13th tbh

 

[danny la rouge]

I think there's a number of factors at play in the collapse into Labour:

The weakness of the extra-parliamentary left.

Labour putting forward what is ostensibly the most Left-wing platform in most of our living memories.

The hegemony of liberalism within the movements - Brexit, idpol, climate change etc.

One of the (many) difficulties I have with Labour in particular is how much Labour here in Scotland was until very recently the ossified political establishment. In monolithic local government, in the parliamentary seats, in civil society. It wasn’t a progressive force, it was a force of conservatism (small c) and establishment. They had been in power in many local governments for many decades. They were the administrations who implemented the poll tax. They carried out the warrant sales. And they took the working class for granted. And here in Scotland they show no sign of remorse or change.

There is no chance I’d campaign for them.

 

[killer b]

Also, a general election is our world cup, and by joining a campaign you're actually playing rather than watching from the stands.

 

[LDC]

I think there's a number of factors at play in the collapse into Labour:

The weakness of the extra-parliamentary left.

Labour putting forward what is ostensibly the most Left-wing platform in most of our living memories.

The hegemony of liberalism within the movements - Brexit, idpol, climate change etc.

I wonder what's it's all going to collapse into if Labour lose? The next thing with a slight glimmer of hope that people can get excited about for six months?

 

[danny la rouge]

And just to add that locally it’d mean working with people like this (posted by me two years ago: Scottish Labour, bast*rds the lot of them ).

Absolutely no chance.

 

[Poi E]

Also, a general election is our world cup, and by joining a campaign you're actually playing rather than watching from the stands.

I wouldn't trust the stand if I was you.

 

[killer b]

I wonder what's it's all going to collapse into if Labour lose? The next thing with a slight glimmer of hope that people can get excited about for six months?

I think there's going to be plenty of things to do if they lose.

 

[chilango]

This sums it up perfectly for me.

 

[killer b]

I wonder what's it's all going to collapse into if Labour lose? The next thing with a slight glimmer of hope that people can get excited about for six months?

also there's this: Labour Transformed