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Arsed
Hate getting bogged down in all this labour stuff but uh the incumbent?
The 2019 General Election
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SpineyNorman
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I can't think of anyone on the Labour left who has less charisma than starmer if I'm honest.
Agree it's a daft debate though, only fuels the ridiculous argument that the problem here is one of leadership rather than the tensions between the leave and remain sections of their voter base and those whose votes they want to win.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
What’s hitting labour is the internal chaos, which was instigated and prolonged by Blairite types, not the fault of the so-called ‘hard left’. Corbyn’s first shadow cabinet was a broad church including some on the right of the party. What followed was mass resignations, leadership challenges and sniping from MPs writhing columns in the Tory press, leading up to the situation now where you have dissident members/former members calling for people to vote for an entitled Etonian prick instead. This isn’t Corbyn’s doing.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
It'll be interesting to see what Farage does this week, he was supposed to announce all the 600 candidates last week, but held off.
He's under pressure not to stand anything like that number, from some of his own candidates, Arron Banks, and Brexit supporting rags, apparently the Mail carried 5 pages yesterday on why he shouldn't put candidates up against the Tories, for fear of handing No. 10 to Corbyn.
He's under pressure not to stand anything like that number, from some of his own candidates, Arron Banks, and Brexit supporting rags, apparently the Mail carried 5 pages yesterday on why he shouldn't put candidates up against the Tories, for fear of handing No. 10 to Corbyn.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yeah, thursday's the nomination deadline IIRC?
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Yep.
This surely wraps it up for Labour.
Corbyn finally exposed as a SOCIALIST.
Tweet would have carried more weight if they’d mentioned Corbyn’s house is in Islington and his net worth is approx £4.5 million.
a_chap
When the world came apart, where were you?
I suspect that Tweet went right over your head...
maomao
普費斯
Wouldn't have to be flying very high to do that.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
McDonnell does TV pretty well, always seems relaxed and sure of himself, doesn’t get flustered or caught out. Would be a bonus for Labour to take on Javid, who seems a bit of a lightweight, comes across like one of those Apprentice candidates that’s overly sure of themselves but a bit shit (which is a fair description of half the cabinet at least).
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
They are not a UK party, the clue is in their name.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
As a matter of interest, where did you get that figure Marty1 ?
You wouldn't, for example, be using the logic used in this piece would you (scroll down to 'jeremy corbyn's net worth')? Usual apols for the source etc.
ooops: What is Jeremy Corbyn’s net worth? | Daily Mail Online
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yes, I imagine he's very, but not mega, rich - for a socialist or for anyone really. Not Tony Benn rich,, but still rich.
But I'm interested in the maths. The DM got him up to £3million in 2018, using the entirely misleading phrase 'his accumulated wealth' from the public purse. It's badly written, but they seem to be just adding up the money he's received since entering parliament. I wonder, was 'the radio' doing something similar?
Yes, I imagine he's very, but not mega, rich - for a socialist or for anyone really. Not Tony Benn rich,, but still rich.
But I'm interested in the maths. The DM got him up to £3million in 2018, using the entirely misleading phrase 'his accumulated wealth' from the public purse. It's badly written, but they seem to be just adding up the money he's received since entering parliament. I wonder, was 'the radio' doing something similar?
Couldn’t give two hoots what his exact net worth is tbh - but I’m glad we can both agree that he is worth a decent amount for a socialist.
I think it’s fair to say that old crusty Corbyn is the very definition of the phrase ‘champagne socialist’ or the American version ‘limousine liberal’.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
But then you are wrong on that as well. The term 'champagne socialist' isn't predominantly about wealth, it's about lifestyle - the champagne bit. If you know anything about Corbyn you'd know he is famously austere and even the piece I quoted from the mail makes much of him eating cold beans from a can and refusing to go to restaurants during his 1st marriage.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Champagne socialist = new labour types. The most misused word in that phrase is socialist really. The one that gets me is the newer latte socialist. I mean I drink my coffee black but is having milk really a signifier of something, I dunno
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I thought Owen Smith had settled the Coffee Question for a generation? Ditto watching football and having lots of beers.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I thought Owen Smith had settled the Coffee Question for a generation? Ditto watching football and having lots of beers.
I'm starting to think consumer choices might not be the best shorthand label for a persons politics. That said, when I'm rich you can call me le creuset communist.
Raheem
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Nah, it's a term that predates New Labour by a few decades at least. That lot spent more on making sure no-one drank champagne in public than they did on the champagne.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
He's an Islington MP so should be living there , and bought his house decades ago when it was worth a lot less (and was affordable).
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