The 2019 General Election

[alex_]

Jess Philips would be an awesome Labour leader. She’s so down to earth and effective at communicating with the public. Funny too, which helps.

she could slay Johnson every week

 

[tommers]

Kier starmer should have led into this election

Whoa. I know we're all upset but steady on.

 

[ska invita]

First time I've looked at a lot of social media during an election, particularly Twitter. Total echo chamber waste of time. Even Trending in the UK seemed echo chambered up.

 

[MrCurry]

she could slay Johnson every week

Exactly. We’ve already seen her take him apart in PMQs. What Labour really needs now is a leader who the public can warm to and who can expose Boris’s lies.

 

[ska invita]

Whoa. I know we're all upset but steady on.

Whatever you or I think he's now favourite (with the bookies)

 

[tommers]

Whatever you or I think he's now favourite (with the bookies)

Could not give a fuck. Can't wait for a labour party that abstain from welfare votes again. Yes, move them to the right, same as every other part of this fucking godforsaken island.

 

[Edie]

Predictable but depressing. Labour just don’t get it. You can offer the world on a stick but unless you actually fucking listen to people it’s utterly pointless

 

[alex_]

Exactly. We’ve already seen her take him apart in PMQs. What Labour really needs now is a leader who the public can warm to and who can expose Boris’s lies.

It’s only downhill from here for the tories - they have to own their mess and can’t blame anyone else.

they are going to be disappointing a lot of their voters from here on whatever happens

Alex

 

[sunnysidedown]

Urgh, 3 wastes of space.

Starmer and Thornberry who's push towards an outright Remain stance was a key factor in losing a shot load of Labour heartlands. Great strategy that.

McDonnell provided the Judas kiss. He left Corbyn as the only one sticking to an honouring the result position after being led by Momentum into a people’s vote/remain position.

 

[emanymton]

Even if it is true someone else as leader would have done better (which it isn't) so fucking what? What would be the point of that? It would just have been more of the fucking same. It isn't about just getting a Labour win. It is about getting a government that might at least try to slow down the rate we are sinking into shit.

 

[tommers]

Chuka's writing his "can I come back" speech.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I horrible nights sleep. I honestly had hope and believed that most people were not this horrible or stupid. We have the three worst PM's in a row, each one making the last look like a saint, destroying the country over the last 10 years, and still the people fall for it.
I have no hope left at all. I'm empty.

 

[Poot]

I horrible nights sleep. I honestly had hope and believed that most people were not this horrible or stupid. We have the three worst PM's in a row, each one making the last look like a saint, destroying the country over the last 10 years, and still the people fall for it.
I have no hope left at all. I'm empty.

Have an empathy like. I honestly believed that people were better than this.

 

[kebabking]

Chuka's writing his "can I come back" speech.

Do you think he's already applied to rejoin the Labour party?

 

[Doctor Carrot]

I horrible nights sleep. I honestly had hope and believed that most people were not this horrible or stupid. We have the three worst PM's in a row, each one making the last look like a saint, destroying the country over the last 10 years, and still the people fall for it.
I have no hope left at all. I'm empty.

Yep, no hope and I'm afraid to say no sympathy for when those who voted for them get absolutely shafted by them. This makes my social atomisation complete, which is of course exactly what they want.

 

[MrCurry]

Do you think he's already applied to rejoin the Labour party?

I would’ve thought he’d try the tories next, to complete the set.

 

[NoXion]

I see Labour's pivot towards Remain has paid off.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Some spot on observations here particularly “trying to advance socialism for the working class, not with them”


Like Edie said too.
Paul O'Connell – Why We Lost, How We Win

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Thank god I got hammered last night - don't think I could have coped with watching the fucking disaster play out through the night. We're properly fucked.

At least I've still got a labour MP (29k majority), and the tory cunts will own whatever disasters happen in the next five years.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Have an empathy like. I honestly believed that people were better than this.

Sadly there are a large number of bastards in the country - particularly England.

 

[emanymton]

I said this on the positives thread. But lets take some solace from the fact that there are not actually that many more people voting from the scum, and it will still be around a third of the population that voted for them. So we will save a little on bullets.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Exactly. We’ve already seen her take him apart in PMQs. What Labour really needs now is a leader who the public can warm to and who can expose Boris’s lies.

His lies were exposed. The public didn't care.

 

[Poi E]

I horrible nights sleep. I honestly had hope and believed that most people were not this horrible or stupid. We have the three worst PM's in a row, each one making the last look like a saint, destroying the country over the last 10 years, and still the people fall for it.
I have no hope left at all. I'm empty.

England loves a drunk racist.

 

[Ming]

I wonder how the UK will be in 5 years time. Snigger. Stupid Tories.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Just one seat left to declare - St Ives, because of high tide and bad weather.

As there is a single returning officer for the islands, based on St Mary's, all ballot boxes from the smaller outer islands must be shipped to St Mary's before the results for the Isles of Scilly can be phoned into the main counting centre at Carn Brae leisure centre in Camborne.

Bad weather could see Cornish constituency being last to declare

A Tory held seat that could go to the LDs, but unlikely.

 

[tommers]

Do you think he's already applied to rejoin the Labour party?

Wouldn't put it past him.

 

[mauvais]

Yep, no hope and I'm afraid to say no sympathy for when those who voted for them get absolutely shafted by them. This makes my social atomisation complete, which is of course exactly what they want.

It's a perfectly understandable reaction but it probably won't pan out like that. I felt much like that about the Brexit referendum, as did many, but in fairly short order the whole 'thick racists' sentiment got dismantled. I don't see eye to eye with many on here about the potential for the working class to produce a better future in my lifetime but I can also see that there is a more productive way to frame the narrative.

 

[Winot]

Where have all these Tory voters come from?

The result is mainly due to a drop in Labour voters. The Tories didn’t increase their vote share by very much as far as I know. Labour voters did not turn out.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Aye, at the risk of being a "hug a racist" woolly liberal, we just lost the numbers game, hard; alongside all the resistance and the fighting back, we're going to have to do something to bring people over to 'our side'.

 

[Pickman's model]

I see Labour's pivot towards Remain has paid off.

Yeh it seemed like a good idea at the time