The 2019 General Election

[equationgirl]

Where have all these Tory voters come from?

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

You're just annoyed we have another party to vote for. I did postal vote for this election.

I didn’t realise I’d been kicked out of Scotland for not voting SNP with enough fervour, fuuuck.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Where have all these Tory voters come from?

They never left.

 

[equationgirl]

I didn’t realise I’d been kicked out of Scotland for not voting SNP with enough fervour, fuuuck.

You haven't don't worry. It was my fault - I assumed you were in englandshire.

 

[DexterTCN]

 

[a_chap]

On a lighter note, at least the odious Mike Gapes got well and truly stuffed.

 

[Steel Icarus]

At least we know what all those massive queues were.

 

[Sprocket.]

All the lights were on at Caroline Flint’s when I passed at 6:30.
Maybe packing up and leaving!

 

[Artaxerxes]

At least we know what all those massive queues were.

Safe Labour seats.

 

[Casual Observer]

Haven't watched any of the coverage since 11.30 last night. Will catch up in minute but presumably Jo Swinson is now on her way to visit the Queen to ask for permission to form a new government.

 

[emanymton]

For the first time ever I have a tory MP.

 

[redsquirrel]

Brexit won it for the Tories.
Corbyn lost it for Labour

No I'm sorry but that's too simplistic. It ignores the points The39thStep made

You won't find a more left person in the HofC than Dennis Skinner but I'll be very surprised if he keeps his seat, I hope he does. Will he lose it because he's too left wing?No he'll lose it mainly because of Labours position on Brexit and secondly because even before that many w/class voters in his and many areas no longer saw Labour as their party. No amount of good but late economic policies , no amount of election time tweets or facebook ads can make up for the fact they've done f all in many of those communities for decades and whether remainers like it or lump it Labour areas areas that voted for leave expected Labour nationally to support the referendum result. As I said its a heady mix but to me thats the biggest innluence and prob the tipping point.

This result is a combination of 30+ years of neglect, neglect highlighted by the decision to not make any significant appeal to voters that were traditionally Labour but wanted to leave the EU.

 

[JimW]

Drew lost by more than 4,000 in Stroud to some parachuted in candidate who still doesn't live in the constiuency. Shite.

 

[wiskey]

Bristol is still a red island in a blue sea (well done Bristol NW) ... I really think it's time we declared independence.

 

[existentialist]

Ok, where was the national mass demo against UC?

Check down the back of your sofa - perhaps it fell down there the last time you were wringing your hands...

 

[Lorca]

Jess Phillips and Emily Thornbury both appear to be throwing their hats in the ring lol, but Sir Keir Starmer the favourite according to the mirror.

 

[redsquirrel]

Urgh, 3 wastes of space.

Starmer and Thornberry who's push towards an outright Remain stance was a key factor in losing a shot load of Labour heartlands. Great strategy that.

 

[MrCurry]

Jess Philips would be an awesome Labour leader. She’s so down to earth and effective at communicating with the public. Funny too, which helps.

 

[Ming]

Still. At least a rejection of the vile EU will create a political space and foment anger which will... (drone)...

 

[wiskey]

Kier starmer should have led into this election

 

[redsquirrel]

Jess Philips would be an awesome Labour leader. She’s so down to earth and effective at communicating with the public. Funny too, which helps.

Never mind her politics, eh?

Kier starmer should have led into this election

As I said his push to a more Remain position was a key factor is losing seats like Bolsover and Sedgefield. How would a LP led by him have done better?

 

[wiskey]

Never mind her politics, eh?
As I said his push to a more Remain position was a key factor is losing seats like Bolsover and Sedgefield. How would a LP led by him have done better?

People who voted for personalities not politics wouldn't have been pushed away by Corbyn.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Jess Philips would be an awesome Labour leader. She’s so down to earth and effective at communicating with the public. Funny too, which helps.

Fuck off.

 

[redsquirrel]

People who voted for personalities not politics wouldn't have been pushed away by Corbyn.

First who are these people? If you think long time Labour voters deserted the party in 2019 because of Corbyn - after voting for a Corbyn led LP in 2017- then you are another burying you head in the sand. And the consequences of such politics are rather unpleasant, a rejection of politics as actions in favour of a politics of "personalities", the type of politics that typifies New Labour, Trudeau, Macron, etc.

Second, if you think Starmer would have appealed as a "personality" to Labour heartland seats I think you are dreaming.

 

[kabbes]

Tale of three impacts on the markets in their open



Middle market clearly view Johnson tax haven as being a wonderful thing. Upper market don’t like Sterling resurgence as they are big exporters or otherwise earn in non-GBP currencies. Lower market a bit more of a mixed view.

 

[ska invita]

At least we know what all those massive queues were.

Safe Labour seats.

Urban centres in general. Canterbury held as did Newcastle and Sunderland (both with big leave votes).

 

[redsquirrel]

Where have all these Tory voters come from?

Well in some cases they were Labour voters.

Looking at the Sedgefield result for example, both the Tories and the Brexit Party have increased their votes (I'm comparing the BP in 2019 with UKIP in 2017). Of course some Labour voters may have stayed at home and some non-voters moved to Con/BP but the size of the decrease in the LP strongly suggest a significant amount of Lab->Con/BP movement.

 

[kabbes]

Tale of three impacts on the markets in their open

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Middle market clearly view Johnson tax haven as being a wonderful thing. Upper market don’t like Sterling resurgence as they are big exporters or otherwise earn in non-GBP currencies. Lower market a bit more of a mixed view.

Well fuck a duck

 

[ska invita]

Kier starmer should have led into this election

Not sure who but agree he should've stepped down. From what I could see Corbyn was mortally wounded by January of this year. He took too many arrows. 2017 election was different. By 2019 they got him good

 

[redsquirrel]

Urban centres in general. Canterbury held as did Newcastle and Sunderland (both with big leave votes).

Vote in Newcastle was not that different to Leeds, and Sheffield, Nottingham and Birmingham all recorded higher vote shares for leave.