The 2019 General Election

[SpackleFrog]

Not sure how people feel about ruminations on political betting on this thread but I am considering lumping on a Tory minority govt, available at 9/2 from William Hill. Any thoughts?

Apologies for this very limited contribution. I am actually going to go and do some doorknocking for Labour in a marginal seat or two, and I do think we have to take this opportunity to get the Tories out, despite the ham fisted approach of the Labour leadership to this election. But I can't say I'm filled with enthusiasm so I'm mostly thinking about whether I can make a few quid out of the election.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Not sure how a Tory minority govt could work now they have even pissed off the DUP.

 

[Wilf]

Has anyone done general election bingo yet? Off the top of my head:

- John Harris does a vox pop of people who hang around in town centres on a Wednesday daytime, has revelation than not everyone is a Guardian reader.
- The Sunday Times does another front page reveal that some Corbynistas are still acting like arseholes on Facebook and why has nothing been done about it?
- Diane Abbott puts her feet up on a train carriage seat, news fulminates for a week over this latest outrage.
- ANTI-SEMITISM
- Boris exposed for something vile, everyone shrugs except the Guardian and Mirror which go nuts and are then totally ignored.

Etc.

- Labour led coalition would lead to the break up of the UK, in hoc to SNP etc.
- Octopus predicts Johnson's majority
- Russians, something something, Corbyn, facebook, something something
- Commissar McDonald and your taxes
- Gary Lineker, lots of Gary Lineker - in person and in his pants
- How the politically correct/metropolitan elite/corbyn/some other people betrayed the people of Hull and/or Hartlepool and/or...
- Trump says Johnson is a [garbled bullshit meaning very good] but Corbyn is [garbled bullshit. Just garbled bullshit]

 

[brogdale]

Not sure how a Tory minority govt could work now they have even pissed off the DUP.

True, but that doesn't bother the bookies or punters.

 

[brogdale]

Do keep up at the back...a few more to the cull...e2a : that's 57...and rising.

 

[Wilf]

Not sure when the fuckers prorogue off, but Bercow presumably returns to the back benchers for about a day or so before that. Wonder where he'll sit? Don't really, but I do like the idea of tory backbanchers tripping him up and flicking his ears. They'll probably make him sit with the Chunks, the ultimate humiliation.

 

[Pickman's model]

Not sure when the fuckers prorogue off, but Bercow presumably returns to the back benchers for about a day or so before that. Wonder where he'll sit? Don't really, but I do like the idea of tory backbanchers tripping him up and flicking his ears. They'll probably make him sit with the Chunks, the ultimate humiliation.

he might just take a break till parliament's dissolved (not prorogued)

 

[brogdale]

Not sure when the fuckers prorogue off, but Bercow presumably returns to the back benchers for about a day or so before that. Wonder where he'll sit? Don't really, but I do like the idea of tory backbanchers tripping him up and flicking his ears. They'll probably make him sit with the Chunks, the ultimate humiliation.

Only Monday (4th) & Tuesday (5th) as sitting days after he said he'd bale.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Not sure when the fuckers prorogue off, but Bercow presumably returns to the back benchers for about a day or so before that. Wonder where he'll sit? Don't really, but I do like the idea of tory backbanchers tripping him up and flicking his ears. They'll probably make him sit with the Chunks, the ultimate humiliation.

Parliament is due to be dissolved next Tuesday, 5th November.

By some chap called Guy Fawkes.

 

[Wilf]

he might just take a break till parliament's dissolved (not prorogued)

I've only just got used to the word prorogued and now it's a distant memory. Yes, I guessed he probably won't turn up as a backbencher, but do wonder if there will be an awkward day or two. Normally, retiring speakers are honoured and go paintballing with the Privy Council (I think). They'll probably just shove Bercow out with the bins.

 

[Pickman's model]

Only Monday (4th) & Tuesday (5th) as sitting days after he said he'd bale.

ah! he's going boating then

 

[Wilf]

Only Monday (4th) & Tuesday (5th) as sitting days after he said he'd bale.

But he'll have to give back the symbols of office, such as his gown and ugg boots.

 

[brogdale]

ah! he's going boating then

Pitched straight off the terrace into the Thames!

 

[belboid]

- Labour led coalition would lead to the break up of the UK, in hoc to SNP etc.

I'm not really sure that they'd really risk that one considering it's what Johnsons just done

 

[strung out]

Fucking cunts cost me £4 on exchanging my holiday money by calling the election when they did yesterday

 

[SpackleFrog]

Not sure how a Tory minority govt could work now they have even pissed off the DUP.

Part of my thinking is that it would be impossible for the Tories to work with anyone, even on the basis of confidence and supply, so if they find themselves as largest party they will have to govern as a minority, or at least attempt to. Labour led coalition seems fairly unlikely unless Lib Dems agree to work with Corbyn. Which they have said they won't. Which isn't to say I trust anything they say but I do think it's unlikely they would be a junior partner to Corbyn.

 

[SpackleFrog]

I'm not really sure that they'd really risk that one considering it's what Johnsons just done

That's an interesting one isn't it? I still think they'll happily try it but would be hilarious if it backfired and the narrative became about Johnson smashing up the Union.

 

[Wilf]

Pitched straight off the terrace into the Thames!

Only to be rescued by a heroic Sir Peter Bone, who dives in to save him. Following the rescue they form an unlikely friendship and go on to form a comedy duo on the northern club circuit. It could happen.

 

[Wilf]

By the way, does this mean we don't want England to win the rugby world cup now?

 

[andysays]

Part of my thinking is that it would be impossible for the Tories to work with anyone, even on the basis of confidence and supply, so if they find themselves as largest party they will have to govern as a minority, or at least attempt to. Labour led coalition seems fairly unlikely unless Lib Dems agree to work with Corbyn. Which they have said they won't. Which isn't to say I trust anything they say but I do think it's unlikely they would be a junior partner to Corbyn.

I find it difficult to believe that anyone here thinks that neither the DUP nor the LibDems (and potentially both together) wouldn't be willing to prop up a minority Tory government, if the arithmetic allowed and the price was right.

 

[brogdale]

Only to be rescued by a heroic Sir Peter Bone, who dives in to save him. Following the rescue they form an unlikely friendship and go on to form a comedy duo on the northern club circuit. It could happen.

Sir Peter Beauuunnnne!

 

[Wilf]

Sir Peter Beauuunnnne!

TBF, Bercow's got plenty of catchphrases. Early tip for the Perrier award?

 

[SpackleFrog]

By the way, does this mean we don't want England to win the rugby world cup now?

No, we definitely do, if that box kicking twat de Klerk gets a world cup winners medal that's it I'm going to hibernate.

 

[SpackleFrog]

I find it difficult to believe that anyone here thinks that neither the DUP nor the LibDems (and potentially both together) wouldn't be willing to prop up a minority Tory government, if the arithmetic allowed and the price was right.

Lib Dems would want a second referendum as their price. DUP can be bought on most things but not on the question of a border down the Irish sea.

I'm not ruling it out mind just trying to weigh up the value. Are you saying you don't think it's worth the bet?

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Not sure when the fuckers prorogue off, but Bercow presumably returns to the back benchers for about a day or so before that. Wonder where he'll sit? Don't really, but I do like the idea of tory backbanchers tripping him up and flicking his ears. They'll probably make him sit with the Chunks, the ultimate humiliation.

I'm going for 'in the heavily subsidised bar all day.'

 

[Wilf]

I'm going for 'in the heavily subsidised bar all day.'

To be fair, he may not have enough time. His last chance to abuse the House of Commons staff.

 

[SpookyFrank]

By the way, does this mean we don't want England to win the rugby world cup now?

No because then one of those fat cunts will get SPOTY instead of Ben Stokes.

 

[SpackleFrog]

No because then one of those fat cunts will get SPOTY instead of Ben Stokes.

even better cricket isn't a sport

 

[Threshers_Flail]

Not exactly, though from dim, distant memory I have a feeling it is a pic from the Occupy Wall Street times...or possibly a more recent anti-Trump demo; the former I think.
I found it here.

Thanks.

 

[andysays]

Lib Dems would want a second referendum as their price. DUP can be bought on most things but not on the question of a border down the Irish sea.

I'm not ruling it out mind just trying to weigh up the value. Are you saying you don't think it's worth the bet?

I'm not expressing an opinion on the bet, one way or another.

But if your calculation about the likelihood of a minority Tory government includes an assumption that neither the DUP nor the LibDems would enter into a coalition or even a confidence and supply arrangement with the Tories, as you appear to me to be doing, I think that assumption is open to question.