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24th September 2005. Twelve years ago, got anything more current?
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No, not really. I just posted that to explain why I thought it was news. Turns out I should have checked the date. So thanks for helping me out. I mean, it could have been some prick with sidey remarks instead of your helpful reminder.

Meanwhile, back to incompetency v. intentional throwing of election



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Well yes. We hear quite enough about him, and national policy, as it is. I prefer this sort of campaigning even though I'm generally pro Corbyn. I hope it persists.
Leaving Corbyn out of local campaigning is fine, especially given the stark contrast with the personality based approach of the May Party. Similarly burning local issues need to be highlighted, but campaigning without reference to the manifesto exposes division which is ripe for exploitation. How will Abbott or Thornberry deal with persistent questioning about large numbers of prominent LP candidates ignoring the headline policies?
 
Can you point me to the content of the update? The Mirror's site algorithms have simply added a May video clip to any article tagged "Conservative".
I was sure I'd heard that story years ago, and was rather surprised to see it being dated May '17, so thanks for researching that and confirming my suspicions :)
 
No, not really. I just posted that to explain why I thought it was news. Turns out I should have checked the date. So thanks for helping me out. I mean, it could have been some prick with sidey remarks instead of your helpful reminder.

Meanwhile, back to incompetency v. intentional throwing of election



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Of course, a very clever political reporter would make sure that the question list Boris snuck a look at next time was a completely fake one :)
 
I'm increasingly wondering if Conservative Central Office are actually trying to throw this election..
No, what they're trying to do is use their huge projected majority to ditch policies they don't want but have had to accept in the past. Obviously they've not felt confident enough to do that with the immigration target, which everyone knows they have no intention of implementing, but the triple lock, winter fuel and social care are all remnants of socialised provision they're ideologically opposed to. They could not have ditched those policies in 2010 or 2015, the polling was too ambiguous, but this time she/they thought they could rebrand and make their contempt for the lower middle class and working class homeowners quite explicit without significant electoral penalty.
 
No, what they're trying to do is use their huge projected majority to ditch policies they don't want but have had to accept in the past. Obviously they've not felt confident enough to do that with the immigration target, which everyone knows they have no intention of implementing, but the triple lock, winter fuel and social care are all remnants of socialised provision they're ideologically opposed to. They could not have ditched those policies in 2010 or 2015, the polling was too ambiguous, but this time she/they thought they could rebrand and make their contempt for the lower middle class and working class homeowners quite explicit without significant electoral penalty.

Yes - but they could easily have said they were going to "review" social care provision - or other wording that would have given them wriggle room to do what they wanted post-election. Im astonished they stuck in the manifesto and clearly didn't forsee the shit storm it would unleash.
 
May has just u-turned, in Wrexham of all places. One of the more absurd speeches of modern times -

And what is Jeremy Corbyn’s plan? He can promise a nonsensical, fantasy policy that can only be funded through massive tax rises on younger generations. In fact, just recently he threatened to increase the basic rate of income tax for millions of people from 20 to 25 per cent to fund social care. That tells you everything you need to know about Jeremy Corbyn’s answer to the problem.

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That really did not sound like the speech of someone nine points ahead in the polls and heading for a landslide.
 
fucking hell. Has a party ever done such a massive u-turn in the middle of an election campaign? Weak and wobbly etc.
Internal polling must have been really bad.
 
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