The 2017 General Election campaign

[redsquirrel]

"revolutionary leadership for the working-class", good job too, how else will the proles know what to do.

 

[Raheem]

OK, maybe not everyone would agree with everything in there. I definitely know some people who think it's a bit late in the day to do anything about the Balfour Declaration, or don't put it very high on their list of priorities. Other than that, I think the disillusioned Tory vote is theirs for the taking.

 

[mikey mikey]

He's not wrong.

 

[Hollis]

Yep, the tory campaign is also aimed at people who don't, for whatever reason, pay much attention. It's very simplistic indeed, which is why it can seem "worse". It's full of complete horseshit and doublethink too, but that stuff seems to be quite effective.

To paraphrase Lincoln, you only have to fool about 10% of people in marginals once every 4 or 5 years.

But please remember, nobody in the Brexit campaign was fooled or duped.

 

[Hollis]

"revolutionary leadership for the working-class", good job too, how else will the proles know what to do.

Let's disenfranchise the working class, then we can have a proper socialist government.

 

[chilango]

Thing is, we don't know that - the Tories are likely to be using things like targeted Facebook ads and local publicity in marginals that a lot of us simply won't be seeing. We're not in that bubble, they know a lot of us would like to set them on fire so they won't waste time and money trying to reach us. The people they will reach and motivate are likely to get quite well-tailored material, and there's nothing those who oppose them can do to stand in the way of this or offer a counterpoint. It's how they got in last time, how Brexit was voted for etc. and is likely to be even more refined and effective due to lessons learnt from the successes of those campaigns.

I'm not seeing that happening here behind enemy lines...

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

I'm not seeing that happening here behind enemy lines...

I am in a Labour held North Midlands constituency vulnerable to falling to the Tories if they can get enough UKIP voters from last time to switch. This, and similar constituencies have been focused on in reporting about the Tories getting ready to seize core Labour constituencies that have been red for nearly a hundred years. We have had expensive wrap around ads on the local paper ( which itself is ramping the Tory campaign, even without the wrap). We have now had two personalised direct mail letters from "Theresa May" focused on Brexit which is their key way of appealing to UKIP switchers. These have come to us as we are registered postal voters, so that is where they are concentrating resources ATM. Goodness knows what they are doing with algorithm generated tailored content and ads on FB, we can only imagine, but we would not see that as we are not in the target demographic. I agree with dog sauce, we will not even see what they are doing due to the now very focused, technologically enabled targeted campaigning. Opinion polling would have to be massively refined, detailed and expensive in a vast number of target seats to now keep up with Cambridge Analytica style campaigning. As such, I think most opinion polls are worse than useless in making predictions now.

 

[bimble]

Today's DM has an 'article' by Theresa May in it, ramming home the message that she is counting on its readers else she will lose to the red menace.
I'm kind of amazed, maybe that's just ignorance though - is this normal?

 

[rutabowa]

Let's disenfranchise the working class, then we can have a proper socialist government.

I think you're all being very cynical

 

[chilango]

I am in a Labour held North Midlands constituency vulnerable to falling to the Tories if they can get enough UKIP voters from last time to switch. This, and similar constituencies have been focused on in reporting about the Tories getting ready to seize core Labour constituencies that have been red for nearly a hundred years. We have had expensive wrap around ads on the local paper ( which itself is ramping the Tory campaign, even without the wrap). We have now had two personalised direct mail letters from "Theresa May" focused on Brexit which is their key way of appealing to UKIP switchers. These have come to us as we are registered postal voters, so that is where they are concentrating resources ATM. Goodness knows what they are doing with algorithm generated tailored content and ads on FB, we can only imagine, but we would not see that as we are not in the target demographic. I agree with dog sauce, we will not even see what they are doing due to the now very focused, technologically enabled targeted campaigning. Opinion polling would have to be massively refined, detailed and expensive in a vast number of target seats to now keep up with Cambridge Analytica style campaigning. As such, I think most opinion polls are worse than useless in making predictions now.

Fair enough.

Here in a Tory held semi-marginal that largely voted remain, I'm seeing nothing special. I know plenty of Tory voters - some rock solid, some 2010 Lib Dems/1997 Blair voters. No sign of anything other than their votes being taken for granted. Sadly, rightly so.

 

[Sue]

Fucking hell, I've just had Labour round canvassing. Unheard of in these parts.

 

[mikey mikey]

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

@CraigMurrayOrg

Entire mainstream media, acting as one, shifts election coverage onto Trident missiles after dreadful reaction to Tory pensioner proposals.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Theresa May's extraordinary Facebook meltdown

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Today's DM has an 'article' by Theresa May in it, ramming home the message that she is counting on its readers else she will lose to the red menace.
I'm kind of amazed, maybe that's just ignorance though - is this normal?


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"If I lose 6 seats" - HER seats mark you, not the parties. She is so bad at hiding her authoritarianism. The odd thing is that they try to make something of her "personality" when she is such a charmless dullard. But there's a thing, charmless dullardism resonates strongly with the bitter bourgeois and other dupes for social darwinism, capital etc. Theres also an unstated and illogical projected synonimity between "dull" and "competent"

 

[DotCommunist]

I've had a labour leaflet from one Mike Scrimshaw. I'm sure his ivory carving is top notch. No mention of corbyn on it.

 

[agricola]

Big crowd on the Wirral for Corbyn today -

Jeremy Corbyn rally in Merseyside - Live updates

 

[billy_bob]

Shame my kid was in school when she was on Tyneside. Would have had him out with a 'Theresa May is a doylem' sign.

 

[treelover]

 

[treelover]

What a banner, gets it all in.

 

[treelover]

Big crowd for the Wirral.

Didn't know you were in the Wirrall, Agri.

 

[treelover]

Its rather large.

 

[killer b]

I'm just back from Kirby, it was busy. They were playing some choice disco cuts beforehand too.

 

[killer b]

Here's in either direction from where we were

 

[Artaxerxes]

They should send him to some Conservative safe seats, let him sink or swim and deal with hecklers.


In person he's great but not many conservative voters have dealt with him.

 

[killer b]

He's been in loads of Tory seats. This is one of the few marginals he's been afaik

 

[Pickman's model]

They should send him to some Conservative safe seats, let him sink or swim and deal with hecklers.


In person he's great but not many conservative voters have dealt with him.

Yeh he did fuck all in the referendum make him work now

 

[William of Walworth]

Would appreciate it loads if Greenwood was re-elected

 

[Artaxerxes]

Yeh he did fuck all in the referendum make him work now

Look, if Angela Eagle says he worked hard in the Ref, who am I to doubt such a fine politician?

 

[brogdale]

Ouch.