The 2017 General Election campaign
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mikey mikey
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Kate Bush is a TM fan, apparently. *sigh*
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh you won't find anyone who's an mm fan.Kate Bush is a TM fan, apparently. *sigh*
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Wow!Kate Bush is a TM fan, apparently. *sigh*
mikey mikey
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the truth hurts, eh. i'm not surprised.Give it a rest.
Cid
Proper break this time
Tory seat in West Yorkshire... Ed Balls lost nearby Morely and Outwood in 2015, so it's probably a good area to be campaigning in. Though the Tories seem to be a fair bit stronger in Pudsey than M&O.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
Interesting, but I think they're confusing not wheeling Corbyn out in the marginals with not focussing on the marginals. Certainly in London there's been (and still is) a big push of canvassing in Ealing, Croydon, Eltham and other marginals. The door to door work is not so visible to the media I suppose.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
She does look as if she's smelled a particularly noxious niff. Or maybe she always looks like that.
teqniq
DisMembered
Theresa May to shut down the internet as we know it
Cunts. Let's hope they've miscalculated with this one too.
Cunts. Let's hope they've miscalculated with this one too.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
inherited nick robinsons subliminal smirk though. All in the game for them.
Cid
Proper break this time
Well if anything's going to get 18-25s voting...
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
now I'm singing 'tails on tor' to the tune of 'girls on film'
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
ruffneck23
front left
It really seems like the tories don't want it , or as one of my mates thinks they really are that arrogant
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
its the latter. This election is about putting the labour party out of power for a generation. Of course they run it as a brexit themed one but in the end its as simple as tories smelling blood in the water. They think thats in the bag (hard to disagree atm) and so here comes the reaming
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
ruffneck23
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well let's hope it's fucks em up
Sorry, the tories are going to win.
What is interesting is that labour do appear to be on a bit of a roll. The tories have run a pretty ordinary campaign so far, their manifesto launch was a bit crap and the manifesto itself was basically 'fuck off everyone, we run this shit now'. It also doesn't help that they don't appear to have costed it which even John McDonnell managed to do even if no one believes his figures.
I remember in 2015 when Cameron's campaign was going a bit flat and suddenly we were all treated to action man Cameron, that was great. The tories don't really have that option with May as she's the continuity candidate. My guess is that they'll go after Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbot etc big time in the next few weeks. I'm guessing it's about to get nasty.
Being as I don't really know any Tories. it's hard for me to gauge..but from random chit-chats at the bakers and the local A&E (long story), there seems to be not really much evidence of Labour loathing in my milieu...and quite a bit of pro-Corbyn Labour style appreciation...while according to my daughter, the entirety of Broadlands Authority and Norwich children's services are all deepest red...so, in truth, it just doen't seem so obviously cut and dried for me...in fact, given the clear media hostility towards Corbyn...and the often leading questions, I would not be too surprised if there is a little 'shy Tory' syndrome ocurring with the public response to polling.
However, it is in the nature of gardeners to be optimistic...so my totally unscientific view has it's own deep bias.
I absolutely agree that it is going to get very nasty with the best Tory strategy based on keeping May out of the limelight while concentrating on a vindictive, spite fest.
However, it is in the nature of gardeners to be optimistic...so my totally unscientific view has it's own deep bias.
I absolutely agree that it is going to get very nasty with the best Tory strategy based on keeping May out of the limelight while concentrating on a vindictive, spite fest.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
over 25? you should also be angry
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
drink should do the trick till the result's in
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yep, that's my guess about the shape of the next 2 weeks. Labour maybe getting a couple more good polls, possibly up to 'just' 10% behind - followed by a chorus of 'leadership, leadership... IRA supporter... soft on terror... soft on defence... figures don't add up/will cost you £xxxx... even his own MPs hate him... just listen to xxx said about him... and he's got a beard!'. But the Tories end up with a significant going on massive majority regardless.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
I was wondering as I posted, how many readers were under 25 when they first came to U75 and significantly not under 25 now
I don't think it is as in the bag as they think it is. Labour have 3 or 4 times as many members as the Tories so a lot more boots on the ground as it were, and I think the strength of their manifesto and the utter shiteness of the Tory one gives them something persuasive to go on. It also seems like the Tories have sank into complacency while Labour have been thinking hard and are running a pretty effective and clever campaign.
I reckon that the Tories massive lead is actually quite fragile, being largely dependent on May's personality. The Tory strategy seems to be "hide away and avoid making mistakes" in order to maintain their lead, but the utter shitness of the manifesto finally gives Labour a lot of ammunition to attack them with, which they seem to be doing quite effectively.
They may fall back on the smear campaign, but the smears have been so constant against Corbyn that they may not have much effect and it could just make the Tories look like the nasty cunts they are, relying on smear campaigns while Corbyn behaves like a gent and focuses on popular policies, compared to the Tories grand vision of taking food away from children and letting more pensioners freeze to death.
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