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The 2017 General Election campaign

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Wilf said:
I think their good spell is defined by how far behind they have been for so long. They've come up with a number of positive policies, policies that would benefit most people. The job is, obviously, to get those policies out there, to get people to the point where they know what Labour stand for. For 2 years the story has been Labour are clueless/divided and just about nothing else. Now they've set out some explicit public sector policies it's probably a kind of honeymoon period - just getting them out there is positive.

I would imagine the next stage will be the Tories putting everything into 'wild eyed Jeremy Corbyn's 70s tribute act will cost every single hard working family £3,000 a year', 'figures produced by a respected economist show that...', 'Labour would raid your pension pot...', you know the story. However I think Labour's policies have to actually get somewhere in terms of poll and approval ratings before this counter attack kicks in. Labour are seen as a 'sub-threat' at the moment, but the Tory counter attack will no doubt be primed and ready to roll.
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No mention that the 'resistance' progress, etc has gone quiet(for now) a divided party through the chicken coup is the prime reason the LP lost support in the last year.
 
agricola said:
No doubt - but the advantage they have there is that the Tories have actually raided people's pension pots, and have actually cost every single hard working family thousands. I'd hope that now their policies are out there, they spend half the time promoting them, and the other half pointing out what is likely to happen soon, whose heads it is going to fall on, and who is likely to walk away unharmed because she called an election.
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Sharp and incisive as ever.
 
Bernie Gunther said:
Given that there really isn't any realistic prospect of a Labour win, even if Corbyn was shoved under a bus right now and replaced by the Second Coming of Tony Blair, the more useful question is what can be achieved politically during and in the aftermath of the election.
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It is the more useful question, but most people won't feel ready or willing to discuss it till then.

I hope to almighty fuck there is a lot more action on the streets.
 
John Mcdonnell on Sky News/Sophie Ridge, is very impressive, seems very relaxed, lost that sharpness, one day he could be PM*

*sadly not England
 
I doubt it will have any impact, but perhaps this is something that deserves a bit more attention (and apologies if its a repost from somewhere else here):

The Serious Fraud Office has launched an investigation into a company run by a major Conservative donor who is one of the prime minister’s business ambassadors.

Petrofac, which provides services to the oil and gas industry, is being investigated by the SFO over suspected bribery, corruption and money laundering.

Its chief executive, Ayman Asfari, and his wife have given the Tories more than £700,000 since 2009, with the party receiving £40,000 last December. The Syrian-born businessman has been questioned under caution by the SFO, along with another member of Petrofac’s senior management team. Asfari is a member of the leader’s group, an elite set of donors who give the Conservative party at least £50,000 a year and are invited to join the prime minister and other senior Tories at dinners. As a business ambassador, Asfari can carry out meetings on behalf of the British government while travelling overseas and also lead trade missions.

According to the government’s website, he is entitled to hold one-to-one meetings with senior government ministers and host “high-level incoming visitors”. There are 44 business ambassadors, including Douglas Flint, the chairman of HSBC, and Natalie Massenet, the founder of fashion retailer Net-a-Porter.
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This seems to be part of the same investigation that Unaoil repeatedly tried to get shut down, via a series of judicial reviews (possibly featuring at least one ex-DPP).
 
Yesterday lunchtime had the surreal experience of being in same cafe as Corbyn and his entourage (The Spoke in Archway). Very weird atmosphere- I think at least half the people in there were with him but pretending to be everyday punters. Little trendy film-crew waiting outside, so he probably came out and made a speech about consituency stuff. He looked tiny and beige.

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Ha. this is what was going on:
Grime artist Jme talked to Jeremy Corbyn about why so many people don't vote
 
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Unite have seconded Andrew Murray to assist in the last three weeks of the campaign and donated £2.5 million -GMB and Unison saying their political funds are empty .
 
mikey mikey said:
Well, you wouldn't catch May hanging out with the hoi poloi, that's for sure.
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It's one of the downsides of being the Home Secretary and then PM of a country with the terrorism threat rated at 'severe', rather than a no-mark geography teacher.

May has a pretty good reputation in her constituency for turning up to stuff and hitting the pavements and knocking doors - but if you think, should he become PM on the 9th June, Corbyn will be hanging around cafés and chatting for hours with randoms you have all the understanding of a housebrick.

Which, I think, we've already established.
 
kebabking said:
It's one of the downsides of being the Home Secretary and then PM of a country with the terrorism threat rated at 'severe', rather than a no-mark geography teacher.

May has a pretty good reputation in her constituency for turning up to stuff and hitting the pavements and knocking doors - but if you think, should he become PM on the 9th June, Corbyn will be hanging around cafés and chatting for hours with randoms you have all the understanding of a housebrick.

Which, I think, we've already established.
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no we haven't :mad:

housebricks have a better notion of politics than mikey mikey
 
kebabking said:
It's one of the downsides of being the Home Secretary and then PM of a country with the terrorism threat rated at 'severe', rather than a no-mark geography teacher.

May has a pretty good reputation in her constituency for turning up to stuff and hitting the pavements and knocking doors - but if you think, should he become PM on the 9th June, Corbyn will be hanging around cafés and chatting for hours with randoms you have all the understanding of a housebrick.

Which, I think, we've already established.
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Wow. I never thought you'd go full out in defence of May. :eek:

Of course, there are no Red Tories here, or anywhere.:hmm:
 
mikey mikey said:
Wow. I never thought you'd go full out in defence of May....
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It's not a defence of May, it's an established fact that the CLP in Maidenhead would concede.

I'm not a member of the CLP in Maidenhead, nor do I live there, however I'm able to know these things by a remarkable process called 'reading'. You should try it - or get someone to do it for you.
 
So May refuses to meet the public, refuses to answer questions, has what questions she does get checked in advance, has crowds of supporters and party workers instead of the general public etc. etc and then kebabking says "has a pretty good reputation in her constituency for turning up to stuff and hitting the pavements and knocking doors"... Yeah, maybe in Deepest Mailite Blue Country, but get a fucking grip, FFS:facepalm:
 
mikey mikey said:
So May refuses to meet the public, refuses to answer questions, has what questions she does get checked in advance, has crowds of supporters and party workers instead of the general public etc. etc and then kebabking says "has a pretty good reputation in her constituency for turning up to stuff and hitting the pavements and knocking doors"... Yeah, maybe in Deepest Mailite Blue Country, but get a fucking grip, FFS:facepalm:
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you very obviously fail to grasp the difference between campaign mode - when the observations/criticisms you make are valid (though given her 20% opinion poll lead, i'm not sure criticism is the right word) - and being in 'normal' MP/PM mode.
 
Okay, so the point that within her own constituency, and probably amongst her close friends, she is a great turn on thr doorstep, goes to prove fucking what exactly? That comment was in reponse to my observation that she is hard to spot amongst the common people. Unfact that, fucker.
 
mikey mikey said:
Okay, so the point that within her own constituency, and probably amongst her close friends, she is a great turn on thr doorstep, goes to prove fucking what exactly. That comment was in reponse to my observation that she is hard to spot amongst the common people. Unfact that, fucker.
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why should you think that her constituants are not 'common people'?
 
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