FridgeMagnet
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"The contents of A N Wilson's wank bank" is reasonably high up on the list of "Things I Really Could Live My Entire Life Without Knowing And Die Happily".
The 2017 General Election campaign
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Should be a puking smiley
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
It's not easy or cheap to replicate the AD/Exchange/Office environment though. MS is actually pretty good at enterprise-level stuff.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I'd expect to see Labour putting on a point or two in the polls over the weekend - and if that works to go for broke about renationalisation (pun only halfway intended).
teqniq
DisMembered
I said on the other thread that i am aware of some of the reasons why there hasn't been a move to a Unix bases OS. This will be one of the ones I am not so aware of.
Already seen a couple showing Labour on 30-32%, moving up by 2-5 points
Anyway, had a Labour leaflet for Darren Jones in Bristol NW. No mention of JC at all. Front side is funding for schools (some schools asking for fees to cover costs they say) & "best Brexit deal for Britain". Targets Leave & Remain voters, takes the approach that however you voted you surely want to make the best of it.
Reverse side is transport in Bristol, local NHS & DJ's local credentials (he would be the first Bristol NW MP to actually be born, raised & schooled in the constituency).
I actually think it's a good leaflet tbh. Sticks to the issues and doesn't treat us like morons with silly graphs and scary pictures of the opposition.
The Brexit section does say DJ will hold May to account in Westminster which doesn't transmit much belief in Labour's ability to win!
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Def Awesome Wells
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Given that there really isn't any realistic prospect of a Labour win, even if Corbyn was shoved under a bus right now and replaced by the Second Coming of Tony Blair, the more useful question is what can be achieved politically during and in the aftermath of the election.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I knew A. N. Wilson was a sick fuck - you've only got to read some of his "history" books to know that - but letching on May? that's fucking vile!!!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Say it loud, and say it proud, brother!!!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
FridgeMagnet
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I think there is actually a prospect of a Labour win, based on what I was saying a page or so ago; their current campaign, amazingly, is just the sort of thing which could disrupt the very vulnerable Tory one. I'm really surprised to say it but I think it's not unimaginable.
It would please me greatly. What a laugh we could have that the tories just threw away their chances in a completely unsophisticated and unconsidered series of attacks on Corbyn the man.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Can't wait to sell rich people's stuff at the bingo
teqniq
DisMembered
Amazingly I have to agree and normally I don't like to give an opinion on such things for fear of jinxing the outcome (I know, I know, superstitious twaddle alert) but it seems to me that they may be in with a chance.
Hollis
bloody furious
Labour are running a strong campaign, and have good policies. They're also getting to grips with the media (finally).
However, there is fuck all prospect of them winning.
The end-result, as shown in the telegraph poll tomorrow - they'll keep their core vote... disgruntled remainers aren't going to switch to the LibDems, they may do better than the low bar set by Ed Milliband two-years ago in terms of %, but not seats.
Some fundamentals have to change for them to become electable, and i don't think it will change until 2022 at the earliest, when probably with a different leader they may stand a chance.
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FridgeMagnet
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Polls at the moment aren't a good indication; they don't take into account how fragile the Tory (May) campaign is, and how quickly everything it's based on can fall apart.
I'm not a Labour booster, and I don't think it's unlikely that May's team can carry their bullshit long enough to win - all I'm saying is that it's not unbelievable that it could turn around.
I'm not a Labour booster, and I don't think it's unlikely that May's team can carry their bullshit long enough to win - all I'm saying is that it's not unbelievable that it could turn around.
Ah come on. Violent fantasies using misogynist language about female politicians and he's keen on Doctor Who. It's nailed on mate
Another week of steady creep in the polls and some evidence that there is movement away from the Tories and I may believe a chance exists.
I think what we're seeing at the moment is the last bit of the UKIP vote being squeezed by the Tories and a corresponding slightly smaller move from the Lib Dems/Greens/won't vote into the Labour camp. We need Tory/SNP voters to switch and it aint happening right now
FridgeMagnet
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There will be a Tory to Lib Dem switch in some areas, based on Brexit. I don't know overall what that will mean though.
Well, my dad's probably one of them. He won't vote for Charlotte Leslie cos she was Leave and that usually means he goes Lib Dem - though he said tonight that he liked the Labour leaflet and would vote for them "if he thought it'd be the deciding vote"
But I don't think there's enough of them in all honesty. Most Tory Remainers are more Tory than they are Remain
FridgeMagnet
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Hard to say innit? The Tory voters I know are pretty pro-Europe and mostly just as disillusioned with the party as the Labour voters I know have been with Labour. Richmond should have been a wakeup for the Tories but they don't seem to have taken it into account at all, just banging on with Team May.Well, my dad's probably one of them. He won't vote for Charlotte Leslie cos she was Leave and that usually means he goes Lib Dem - though he said tonight that he liked the Labour leaflet and would vote for them "if he thought it'd be the deciding vote"
But I don't think there's enough of them in all honesty. Most Tory Remainers are more Tory than they are Remain
Well yeah, the plural of "anecdote" is not "data" and all that
But I do feel a lot of my friends who have been very keen on Green/Lib Dem/TUSC in the past are piling into Labour this time. So are my anarcho lot. Call it what you want - pragmatism, desperation, fear... maybe even some of them believe in it all
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