Star Trek: Discovery

[ruffneck23]

Didn't enjoy enterprise much tbh , go straight to discovery is my advice

 

[DexterTCN]

That chief security woman from the early episodes then the later ones.

She's the one that killed Callie on BSG

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glad she's dead

 

[donkyboy]

forgot enterprise even happened. watched couple of episodes when channel 4 I think used to show it. Mainly to see how that bloke who used to star in Desmonds looked. never watched beyond 3-4 episodes.

 

[ruffneck23]

They did have a mirror universe ting too , a mirror darkly or something, wasn't bad , but apart from that , didn't grip me

 

[DexterTCN]

And that episode was called...

What's Past Is Prologue

The last two, the next two are called...

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The war without, the war within/Will you take my hand?

 

[T & P]

Ace series, continues to deliver

 

[DotCommunist]

Spoiler: episode

Lorca's death was a classic of the Final Boss Defeated genre. Stabbed from behind, staggers towards Michael with his hands out making 'I'm dying' faces, drops to the knees then kicked into pit of doom, falling like the emperor fell n RoJ afte Vader chucks him down his own shaft of doom.

 

[DexterTCN]

Michelle Yeoh high kick

And a little green Myscillium blob going on Tilly?

 

[Santino]

Spoiler: episode

Lorca's death was a classic of the Final Boss Defeated genre. Stabbed from behind, staggers towards Michael with his hands out making 'I'm dying' faces, drops to the knees then kicked into pit of doom, falling like the emperor fell n RoJ afte Vader chucks him down his own shaft of doom.

He fell into the mushroom thing so there's scope for him to come back. Because of science.

 

[sleaterkinney]

I've been watching Enterprise. About 5 eps into it.....does anything actually happen (like is there any real action adventure)? it's all been very gentle and nice so far.

The theme song still brings back the fear.

 

[Crispy]

Spoiler: episode

Lorca's death was a classic of the Final Boss Defeated genre. Stabbed from behind, staggers towards Michael with his hands out making 'I'm dying' faces, drops to the knees then kicked into pit of doom, falling like the emperor fell n RoJ afte Vader chucks him down his own shaft of doom.

I demand a compilation video on youtube

 

[donkyboy]

And a little green Myscillium blob going on Tilly?

yeah. why did they show that. must come into play. maybe she will develop superpowers like spiderman bitten by spider

 

[donkyboy]

would be good if they introduced Q into one of the stand alone episodes

 

[Mation]

Yeah, this series is bascially the setup for getting Michael set up as Captain for next season.

That's what I was (quietly!) assuming from the start.

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I know we're currently back in the right universe but I reckon it's going to go full Quantum Leap as they try to get back to the right place and time to stop the Klingons winning the war.

 

[agricola]

That's what I was (quietly!) assuming from the start.

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I know we're currently back in the right universe but I reckon it's going to go full Quantum Leap as they try to get back to the right place and time to stop the Klingons winning the war.

I hope not..

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I'd much rather see Saru as Captain. Also the ep.14 trailer does suggest that panicky Starfleet will be taking the advice of mirror Georgiou in terms of turning things around, possibly with some form of planetary bombardment. That may be more amusing than Quantum Leap would be.

 

[cybershot]

That's what I was (quietly!) assuming from the start.

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I know we're currently back in the right universe but I reckon it's going to go full Quantum Leap as they try to get back to the right place and time to stop the Klingons winning the war.

I'm glad someone else mentioned

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Quantum Leap

because that's what I was feeling too.

It was a good episode, but with 3 episodes left, it feels like far too much is trying to be crammed into the opening season. Were they worried it wasn't going to get past one season? I never thought I'd say this about Star Trek, but whoah, let's slow it down a little...

I've been watching Enterprise. About 5 eps into it.....does anything actually happen (like is there any real action adventure)? it's all been very gentle and nice so far.

Enterprise get's going, like all other Trek before Discovery, the first season isn't great, but does set up some character arcs along the way. Seasons 3 and 4 are where it gets going, just like the others did. The Temporal cold war is ace. I think it got cancelled before it should have it was going places.

The mirror universe story arc is also good in Enterprise.

 

[mwgdrwg]

Did anyone notice how Tilly's hair changed from straight back to glorious curls in the space of a scene. Maybe I only noticed because I love her!

 

[Mation]

I'm glad someone else mentioned

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Quantum Leap

because that's what I was feeling too.

It was a good episode, but with 3 episodes left, it feels like far too much is trying to be crammed into the opening season. Were they worried it wasn't going to get past one season? I never thought I'd say this about Star Trek, but whoah, let's slow it down a little...

I've had to watch each episode at least twice to keep up. But I have watched quite a bit of it on memory unenhancing substances.

Enterprise get's going, like all other Trek before Discovery, the first season isn't great, but does set up some character arcs along the way. Seasons 3 and 4 are where it gets going, just like the others did. The Temporal cold war is ace. I think it got cancelled before it should have it was going places.

The mirror universe story arc is also good in Enterprise.

I started Enterprise again the other day. I didn't get beyond season one last time. This time, it now seems a lot more macho than the science fiction I've got used to watching and reading since. It was really off-putting.

 

[trabuquera]

Can anyone remind me where we are with TylerVoq (in either mirror universe) ... and what are the odds he's in charge of future non-evil, but devastated postwar future Earth?

 

[rekil]

I hope not..

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I'd much rather see Saru as Captain.

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Burnham's gonna have him for breakfast (and lunch and dinner).

"Last Night A Space Nazi Made Me Eat A Parallel Universe You" is a potentially good name for a song.

 

[Vintage Paw]

Can anyone remind me where we are with TylerVoq (in either mirror universe) ... and what are the odds he's in charge of future non-evil, but devastated postwar future Earth?

We don't know the history of how Worf-style klingons look how they look - he was always very cagey about it. Maybe the tech they used on Voq was used again in other ways?

Anyway, Tyler's still in the brig with whatshername. Voq in the mirror universe is presumably dead if he didn't get off that planet before the Emperor started bombarding it. I think it's clear Tyler will be in some way involved in whatever happens now with the war.

 

[ruffneck23]

We don't know the history of how Worf-style klingons look how they look - he was always very cagey about it. Maybe the tech they used on Voq was used again in other ways?

chatting to my cousin about this yesterday , he seems to think it will be address ion the series...

 

[Vintage Paw]

chatting to my cousin about this yesterday , he seems to think it will be address ion the series...

I think Worf was on about why TOS klingons looked different to TNG and onwards klingons, and TOS was post-Disco, but at the same time TOS klingons look even more different to Disco klingons than Worf et al. TOS looked far more human, and TNG-onwards looked more like a cross between human and Disco klingons.

If they wanted to go there, and establish the canon of why klingons have looked different, they could use Tyler's tech but I don't know that they will because it would be a massive huge interjection into the lore, and it would probably involve some very dubious ethical stuff. But it could be done if somehow Tyler and whatsherface decide to end the war by using that tech en masse somehow (weaponising it?) to turn all the klingons more humanlike, so we get the klingons who look more like TOS klingons, and then over time either they naturally breed back slowly more towards their original Disco-types or make a concerted effort to change back for ideological (war, rah!) reasons—which would presumably eventually get them looking like Worf.

But I'm not, as I say, certain they'll do that because of the implications for all of lore ever. Maybe it'll be hinted at, idk.

It certainly would explain why Worf was so cagey about it - if he knew the reason they looked different over time was because they'd been turned more human. Fucking sacrilege!

 

[DexterTCN]

Can anyone remind me where we are with TylerVoq (in either mirror universe) ... and what are the odds he's in charge of future non-evil, but devastated postwar future Earth?

That's probably the next episode. The war without, the war within.

 

[trabuquera]

Well it's all gone a bit chop-sock-pew-pew-pew, but extra retro points for having a traditional "wobble around on deck while under fire" interlude. I liked all the extra cgi inter dimensional spin and flipping during the jumps between 'verses as well.

 

[DexterTCN]

Jason Isaac's twitter is currently a wonder.

Jason Isaacs (@jasonsfolly) on Twitter

 

[Mation]

Jason Isaac's twitter is currently a wonder.

Jason Isaacs (@jasonsfolly) on Twitter

Crikey. What is that?!

 

[DexterTCN]

Crikey. What is that?!

That's great, that is.

Now I'm off to kill santa.

 

[strung out]

I think Worf was on about why TOS klingons looked different to TNG and onwards klingons, and TOS was post-Disco, but at the same time TOS klingons look even more different to Disco klingons than Worf et al. TOS looked far more human, and TNG-onwards looked more like a cross between human and Disco klingons.

If they wanted to go there, and establish the canon of why klingons have looked different, they could use Tyler's tech but I don't know that they will because it would be a massive huge interjection into the lore, and it would probably involve some very dubious ethical stuff. But it could be done if somehow Tyler and whatsherface decide to end the war by using that tech en masse somehow (weaponising it?) to turn all the klingons more humanlike, so we get the klingons who look more like TOS klingons, and then over time either they naturally breed back slowly more towards their original Disco-types or make a concerted effort to change back for ideological (war, rah!) reasons—which would presumably eventually get them looking like Worf.

But I'm not, as I say, certain they'll do that because of the implications for all of lore ever. Maybe it'll be hinted at, idk.

It certainly would explain why Worf was so cagey about it - if he knew the reason they looked different over time was because they'd been turned more human. Fucking sacrilege!

It's already been explained why the klingons changed appearance between TOS and The Motion Picture (the first appearance of new Klingons) Klingon augment virus

Hence in Enterprise:

 

[Vintage Paw]

Totally didn't know about that. The page says they talked about it in Enterprise... in large part that'll be why I don't know. What happened in Enterprise stays in Enterprise.