Star Trek: Discovery

[Red Sky]

S'alright but I wish the Klingons weren't so crap at fighting. If they were going to wholly re imagine them they should have taken a leaf out of the Idiran (Holy) Book.

 

[donkyboy]

1st

Just seen new episode. Not bad. Good to see it back.

 

[agricola]

Great episode.

 

[donkyboy]

i cant see how this fits into the star trek universe of kirk and co?

i thought we would see them in kirks time line. instead its a completely different parallel uni

 

[maomao]

i cant see how this fits into the star trek universe of kirk and co?

i thought we would see them in kirks time line. instead its a completely different parallel uni

ETA: oops sorry, spoilered now

Spoiler

It's the same parallel universe that has been visited in DS9 and the grossly underrated Enterprise.

 

[DotCommunist]

this'll be the frakes directed evil mirror world one then. Will torrent later. Less klingons the better

 

[DotCommunist]

Strong lots to like story wise but on pleasing details I enjoyed the knife fight in the turbolift. Terran Empire as hammily camp fascist as ever. Never change, universe where the nazis won the war. Just stay in the other universe.

 

[mwgdrwg]

Loved it.

Spoiler

The doc got it in the neck!

 

[Graymalkin]

Loved it.

Spoiler

The doc got it in the neck!

Genuinely shocked by that!

 

[cybershot]

Enjoyed it, but equally, as a first season arc, don't really want them to spend too much time there, but I guess the whole of the 2nd part of the season will be.

Would be good to also have episodes of the other Discovery in the proper universe.

 

[agricola]

i cant see how this fits into the star trek universe of kirk and co?

i thought we would see them in kirks time line. instead its a completely different parallel uni

Spoiler

In the original time-line, Kirk's time follows on from the events in Discovery - its the same universe. However this and the next episode relate to a ship from Kirk's time and universe, brought back to the parallel universe and last seen during a couple of episodes (possibly the only decent episodes) of Enterprise.

 

[agricola]

Enjoyed it, but equally, as a first season arc, don't really want them to spend too much time there, but I guess the whole of the 2nd part of the season will be.

Would be good to also have episodes of the other Discovery in the proper universe.

Spoiler

Its a shame they made it clear Lorca wasn't on the mirror Discovery, as it would have been an easy joke to make that the mirror Lorca was actually a nice bloke.

eta spoiler

 

[cybershot]

Spoiler

In the original time-line, Kirk's time follows on from the events in Discovery - its the same universe. However this and the next episode relate to a ship from Kirk's time and universe, brought back to the parallel universe and last seen during a couple of episodes (possibly the only decent episodes) of Enterprise.

Spoiler

The timeline of all this confuses me. The Defiant goes missing in Kirk's time But in the mirror universe is somehow many years before?? My TOS knowledge is poor (I don't really like it) and I only watched through Enterprise once and don't really remember the story, was it the Defiant involved in that too? I guess I'm just being simple, but i suppose there is no explanation of how the Defiant seemed to end up decades in the past in the sense of the mirror universe. I may have to revisit these episodes at the weekend

 

[agricola]

Spoiler

The timeline of all this confuses me. The Defiant goes missing in Kirk's time But in the mirror universe is somehow many years before?? My TOS knowledge is poor (I don't really like it) and I only watched through Enterprise once and don't really remember the story, was it the Defiant involved in that too? I guess I'm just being simple, but i suppose there is no explanation of how the Defiant seemed to end up decades in the past in the sense of the mirror universe. I may have to revisit these episodes at the weekend

Spoiler

In a Mirror, Darkly (episode)

 

[maomao]

Spoiler

As it's been up on Netflix for 36 hours now do we really need to keep using spoiler tags?

 

[mwgdrwg]

Spoiler

Its a shame they made it clear Lorca wasn't on the mirror Discovery, as it would have been an easy joke to make that the mirror Lorca was actually a nice bloke.

eta spoiler

I speculate that mirror Lorca is the actual Lorca we're seeing. The good Lorca died with his crew.

 

[mwgdrwg]

I pray we get to see more Captain Killy

 

[donkyboy]

i find tilly /killy annoying but did rather like her character in the mirror 'verse

 

[DotCommunist]

I pray we get to see more Captain Killy

Evil Willow moment

 

[Lord Camomile]

I pray we get to see more Captain Killy

Spoiler

"If you greeted me that way, Connor, I'd cut out your tongue and use it to lick my boots."

 

[Steel Icarus]

One thing slightly annoying me is how little we've seen or heard from the other bridge crew members. Evil Fascist Keyla got a line last night but I had to look her name up before typing this one. Perhaps the long term plan is to do more with the supporting cast.

 

[DotCommunist]

its always nice to visit star treks evil mirror because it has no subtlety whatsoever. Theres no ambiguities surrounding what they are or why they are evil. They just full on are.

 

[cybershot]

I think it's a testament to how well written TNG was that it never had to resort to this mirror universe lark.

Could you imagine an evil Picard with a goaty!

 

[Nanker Phelge]

I like Star Trek, but only ever really watched the Original Series, all of the films, and some of TNG. Discovery has been the only one I've watched from the start (I started Enterprise, but kept falling asleep), so I don't really get where all this alternative universe stuff connects with the everything else. It hasn't spoiled my enjoyment of discovery though, and I am enjoying it as long as I don't remind myself it is supposed to be before Kirk era Star Trek.

The only reference I got from the latest episode was Jason Isaacs doing a Scots accent.

 

[strung out]

I think it's a testament to how well written TNG was that it never had to resort to this mirror universe lark.

Could you imagine an evil Picard with a goaty!

DS9 was much better written than TNG and had plenty of mirror universe episodes.

 

[strung out]

Could you imagine an evil Picard with a goaty!

Also: evil Picard is judging you

 

[maomao]

DS9 was much better written than TNG and had plenty of mirror universe episodes.

DS9 may have been well written but the acting was fucking terrible.

 

[strung out]

DS9 may have been well written but the acting was fucking terrible.

No worse than TNG (although Patrick Stewart was a class above anything seen in Star Trek before or since)

 

[Poi E]

Spoiler

In a Mirror, Darkly (episode)

Enterprise entering canon pretty well, what with the reference in Star Trek 2009 to Admiral Archer's dog.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Surely any nudge-nudge references to Enterprise are going to be wasted on people who either didn't bother watching it or watched it and then forgot everything about it because it was so dull.

Which is a problem when those two categories between them contain the entire human race.