Sheridan perjury trial opens on Monday

[Fedayn]

You are out the SSP right? So why you so het up about McNeilage? Hes a scumbag and a grass. The SSP never expelled him. No surprise.

You appear to be suggesting something between McNeilage and me? I hardly no him and he wouldnt know me. If theres any scores to be settled, im sure someone will settle them.

I left well over 2 years ago. That doesn't mean I won't defend people if things written about them don't ring true. I made it clear to George I disagreed with what he did. I get pissed off with Sheridans faux outrage at Georges past, at Hugh Kerrs cowardly insinuations that. George was back on the smack, yet again from the safety of a computer screen, I find it funny that people who attack George and claim he can't even walk Pollok safely.....

The point i'm making, is like alot of others, you are happy to fling your words and dark threats around and yet no-one seems to have the sweets to follow up on it. As with Socialist Unity, when someone gave their name to those making threats not one single taker.... Funny that....

 

[Geri]

http://news.scotsman.com/news/Sheridan-trial-39I39ve-spent-200000.6617742.jp



Of course, the SSP will be expelling McNeilage for such treacherous behaviour right? ... Oh!

So one then.

 

[DexterTCN]

I fail to see how you can defend McNeilage after what he did.

On what level is he justified? Political, moral, best man? He sold out a long term mate to the actual fucking enemy for money.

 

[dylans]

So one then.

How many do you fucking want?

 

[Fedayn]

I fail to see how you can defend McNeilage after what he did.

On what level is he justified? Political, moral, best man? He sold out a long term mate to the actual fucking enemy for money.

Did you miss this bit??

I made it clear to George I disagreed with what he did.

Perhaps I should have put a few 'fucks' and 'bloodys' and 'bastards' into the sentence for that 'west of scotland working class enraged authenticity'?!

The point I was making, and still am, is that it's funny, all these cyber warriors making with the blood curdling threats never seem to have the sweets to actually to anything about it. And added to that is Sheridans patrhetic and entirely false outrage over George's younger life.

 

[Geri]

How many do you fucking want?

I wanted to know how many people you considered to have profited from this. You made it clear you think there is only one.

 

[fiannanahalba]

I left well over 2 years ago. That doesn't mean I won't defend people if things written about them don't ring true. I made it clear to George I disagreed with what he did. I get pissed off with Sheridans faux outrage at Georges past, at Hugh Kerrs cowardly insinuations that. George was back on the smack, yet again from the safety of a computer screen, I find it funny that people who attack George and claim he can't even walk Pollok safely.....

The point i'm making, is like alot of others, you are happy to fling your words and dark threats around and yet no-one seems to have the sweets to follow up on it. As with Socialist Unity, when someone gave their name to those making threats not one single taker.... Funny that....

Im aware that McNeilage walks safely round Pollok. As for Socialist Unity well id expect the types to be venting spleen about him will be SWP or CWI , not exactly renowned are they for robust discussions? So no big deal that they arent following up. Anyway what kind of fool makes threats on the net ? The SSP security is the state, and im sure George or any other scumbag SSP member would be straight onto the polis if they felt worried about some SWP or CWI etc active threat as opposed to mutterings on the fucking internet.

 

[DexterTCN]

Fed...I'm guessing that TS changed his mind about McNeilage when he found out that his best man and long term friend and ally had sold him out to the notw for money. If the tape is authentic - what do you think McNeilage had said to get Sheridan to talk?

And I've not made any threats.

 

[dennisr]

Im aware that McNeilage walks safely round Pollok. As for Socialist Unity well id expect the types to be venting spleen about him will be SWP or CWI , not exactly renowned are they for robust discussions? So no big deal that they arent following up. Anyway what kind of fool makes threats on the net ? The SSP security is the state, and im sure George or any other scumbag SSP member would be straight onto the polis if they felt worried about some SWP or CWI etc active threat as opposed to mutterings on the fucking internet.

The CWI has not 'threatened' anybody - jezeus wept

 

[dylans]

I wanted to know how many people you considered to have profited from this. You made it clear you think there is only one.

Yes. And of course the SSP immediately expelled him for his treacherous behaviour didn't they? To do otherwise would be to consent to his selling his soul to the News of the World.

 

[Fedayn]

Fed...I'm guessing that TS changed his mind about McNeilage when he found out that his best man and long term friend and ally had sold him out to the notw for money. If the tape is authentic - what do you think McNeilage had said to get Sheridan to talk?

And I've not made any threats.

George's younger life was/is irrelevant, fine, hate him for the video, understandable, but the pathetic bollocks about his past-which included lies from Sheridan about George mugging old people-was just that pathetic.

What had he said? Well given TS was meeting various in numerous 1-2-1 discussions i'd assume it was the same. I'm not aware of the finer details having not been invovled in that particular episode. My oppositon to what George did was made known to him, the details of how it came about are part of the court record.

 

[Fedayn]

Im aware that McNeilage walks safely round Pollok. As for Socialist Unity well id expect the types to be venting spleen about him will be SWP or CWI , not exactly renowned are they for robust discussions? So no big deal that they arent following up. Anyway what kind of fool makes threats on the net ? The SSP security is the state, and im sure George or any other scumbag SSP member would be straight onto the polis if they felt worried about some SWP or CWI etc active threat as opposed to mutterings on the fucking internet.

I have no idea what party, if any, the cyber warriors are members of.

 

[fiannanahalba]

Fedayn i havent come across any threats or the like concerning McNeilage on Socialist Unity or anywhere else. Why am i not surprised?

 

[Fullyplumped]

FIVE people who testified backing Tommy Sheridan's claims he did not attend a swingers' club could face a police probe that they perverted the course of justice.

A complaint has been made to Strathclyde Police requesting an investigation into some evidence given in court last month on Sheridan's behalf.

The complaint has been passed to the chief constable of Strathclyde Police, Stephen House. It will then be up to the Crown Office to decide whether to press ahead with any formal investigation or prosecution, with the question of whether another trial is in the public interest likely to be a key factor in any decision.

 

[JHE]

FIVE people who testified backing Tommy Sheridan's claims he did not attend a swingers' club could face a police probe that they perverted the course of justice.

A complaint has been made to Strathclyde Police requesting an investigation into some evidence given in court last month on Sheridan's behalf.

The complaint has been passed to the chief constable of Strathclyde Police, Stephen House. It will then be up to the Crown Office to decide whether to press ahead with any formal investigation or prosecution, with the question of whether another trial is in the public interest likely to be a key factor in any decision.

Gawd, what a mess! It gets worse and worse.

Big Tommy Liar will go to prison and I hope Mr McPlod decides he has better things to do than pursue the people mug enough to lie for Tommy.

 

[Fedayn]

I never said the theats on SU were against George. They are general threats. A former comrade of yours asked folk to put up or shut up. Funnily enough it's still rather quiet. Those against George were up here made by others.

 

[fiannanahalba]

The plot thickens. NoTW wanting action taken against Newmans Socialist Unity blog due to perceived threats and they are putting the pressure on for more perjury charges. FFS the SSP must be coming in their pants to know that their best mates in Murdochs Newspapers, the police and the British state arestill out to protect them and vindicate them.

 

[Fullyplumped]

Now George Galloway is saying that Tommy Sheridan lied about the women.

Sheridan’s supporters have maintained the ex-MSP is innocent, while a source close to him was reported as saying the conviction will be appealed.

However, the Sunday Herald can reveal that Galloway – who continues to be a staunch supporter of Sheridan – has conceded that his friend has not been truthful about his private life.

In an exchange with a caller on his late-night talkSPORT radio show on Christmas Eve, Galloway – who has indicated he may stand as a candidate in this year’s Holyrood election – said of Sheridan: “He lied about his sex life and sexual proclivities.”

 

[trevhagl]

i don't know the full background to this but anyone who sets someone up to receive up to 5 years in prison is lowlife of the highest (or lowest?) order

 

[Proper Tidy]

i don't know the full background to this but anyone who sets someone up to receive up to 5 years in prison is lowlife of the highest (or lowest?) order

Quite.

 

[JHE]

i don't know the full background to this but anyone who sets someone up to receive up to 5 years in prison is lowlife of the highest (or lowest?) order

By insisting on suing the News of the Screws, against the better judgment of his comrades, Big Tommy set up his comrades. In the position he put them in, they had three options:
1. Refuse to give evidence - and so be sent to prison for contempt of court, until they agreed to give evidence and then choose between options 2 and 3
2. Give evidence and lie in the way Big Tommy wanted - and so make themselves liable for prosecution for perjury and, if found guilty, imprisonment
3. Give evidence and refuse to lie for Big Tommy

Big Tommy set them up for imprisonment. Does that make him lowlife of the worst sort?

 

[dylans]

By insisting on suing the News of the Screws, against the better judgment of his comrades, Big Tommy set up his comrades. In the position he put them in, they had four options:
1. Refuse to give evidence - and so be sent to prison for contempt of court, until they agreed to give evidence and then choose between options 2 and 3
2. Give evidence and lie in the way Big Tommy wanted - and so make themselves liable for prosecution for perjury and, if found guilty, imprisonment
3. Give evidence and refuse to lie for Big Tommy
4.Sell incriminating evidence to the NOTW for £200.000 pound
Big Tommy set them up for imprisonment. Does that make him lowlife of the worst sort?

Edited for you.

 

[Jessiedog]

Fucking hilarious!

Politics is a dirty game that attracts dirty people.

Hilarious.


Woof

 

[audiotech]

Calling for the police to shut down a left-wing blog I don't find funny. Whatever next?

 

[trevhagl]

Edited for you.

yeah JHE forgot to mention no.4 which i suspect is the main motivation!

 

[fiannanahalba]

I never said the theats on SU were against George. They are general threats. A former comrade of yours asked folk to put up or shut up. Funnily enough it's still rather quiet. Those against George were up here made by others.

True to form theres a fair bit of bleating about supposed threats being made over on Socialist Unity. The SSP is a grassing and/or neurotic fuck up. Tell you what some people are totally maximising the impact of the Sheridan case to really keep the pot boiling and sow as much disaffection and disillusionment as possible. Now whose agenda does that suit?
At least we know a good few people who any socialist would cross the street if they saw them coming and would double check their watch if they got told the time by them.

 

[Fedayn]

You seem to think it was all gonna be jelly and ice cream as opposed to the mess that it is? The disaster we have was clearly pointed out. So in whose interest was the whole pathetic ego driven and sectarian cheerled episode?

 

[JHE]

Edited for you.

yeah JHE forgot to mention no.4 which i suspect is the main motivation!

How many people took £200k from News International (I mean apart from Big Tommy who conned his way to a pay-out of £200k)? Just one, wasn't it?

I wish you Tommy-ites would come out and say what you really believe. If you think that members of the SSP had a duty to commit perjury for Tommy or refuse to give evidence, say so. How long should people have been willing to be in prison in the service of Tommy's vanity?

 

[dylans]

How many people took £200k from News International (I mean apart from Big Tommy who conned his way to a pay-out of £200k)? Just one, wasn't it?
?

Did the SSP expel him? DID THEY EXPEL HIM?

I wish you Tommy-ites would come out and say what you really believe. If you think that members of the SSP had a duty to commit perjury for Tommy or refuse to give evidence, say so. How long should people have been willing to be in prison in the service of Tommy's vanity

I'm not a Tommy-ite. I have said many times I think he was a hypocrite and a fool for sueing the NOTW. However socialists never NEVER give evidence against a comrade. And they never NEVER sell their souls to Murdoch. Refusing to help Sheridan is one thing. Actively collaborating with the enemy is another and it is a fucking disgrace that anyone can defend the actions of the SSP. They are class traitors.

A straight answer to your question. They should have refused to give evidence whatever the cost.

 

[JHE]

They should have refused to give evidence whatever the cost.

That would be contempt of court. The cost would be imprisonment until they relented.