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Saudi Arabia chosen to head human rights panel whilst sentencing citizen to crucifixion

Last December on some other Saudi thread here that I dont feel like needlessly bumping, I said 'So obviously overstretching and miscalculating on multiple fronts can't have done the crown princes reputation any good recently.'

And then nothing really followed on from that, despite a number of further events and examples of his judgement, even before the latest murderous shitshow.

But now we have reached a point where the BBC are prepared to post articles pondering whether he is finished. I wouldnt bet heavily on it, but nor would I bet against it or be surprised if it happened.

Khashoggi murder: Is Saudi crown prince finished?

And now Erdogan has gone a further in his description of the murder of Khashoggi and who was behind it.

"We know that the perpetrators are among the 18 suspects detained in Saudi Arabia," he wrote in the Washington Post, where Khashoggi had written a column.

"We also know that those individuals came to carry out their orders: Kill Khashoggi and leave. Finally, we know that the order to kill Khashoggi came from the highest levels of the Saudi government."

Writing that the murder had involved a "lot more than a group of security officials", President Erdogan called for "the puppet masters behind Khashoggi's killing" to be exposed.

He was also sure to say that he didnt think the king was involved. Its handy that the king is still alive so Erdogan can still leave a little diplomatic wiggle room without letting MSB off the hook.

Saudi state blamed for Khashoggi murder
 
Now Erdogan has stated that he "knows" that the order to kill Khashoggi came from the highest levels of the Saudi government it is surely incumbent upon him to publish to the world whatever it is that he has got in the way of hard evidence whether that be the audio that apparently exists or whatever.Its clear that he is not going to succeed in embarrassing the Saudis into making arrests at the executive level.What is he now waiting for?Or am I being naive?
 
The conflicting accounts and changing denials are all very strange, was he tortured or strangled immediately? Is there a recording or not? This stuff must be an absolute gift to conspiraloons. I wouldn’t be that surprised if he turns up alive next.
 
Guess the young fellow from Ankara has been asked to cease and desist until after the mid-term elections.
 
Now Erdogan has stated that he "knows" that the order to kill Khashoggi came from the highest levels of the Saudi government it is surely incumbent upon him to publish to the world whatever it is that he has got in the way of hard evidence whether that be the audio that apparently exists or whatever.Its clear that he is not going to succeed in embarrassing the Saudis into making arrests at the executive level.What is he now waiting for?Or am I being naive?

leverage in keeping his cards close to his chest- who knows what else he has on record
 
You have to assume that the recordings are genuine. How did they get them I wonder and it calls into question the security at consulates and embassys. Also highlights what people are up to.
 
Maybe someone else gave the recordings to them? Maybe recordings were made by Saudi consular staff opposed to changes in the regime or sickened by what was happening. Without wishing to step into the loon tunnel, I get a sense of there being a bigger picture here that we’re not seeing, or at the very least this will be useful to interests somewhere. Wonder what else was recorded, and what leverage that might provide.
 
Crown Prince’s wings clipped as Khashoggi death rattles Riyadh

...Publicly, the Kingdom’s leaders appear chastened and contrite in the wake of Khashoggi’s gruesome killing inside the Saudi consulate. In private though, senior members of the House of Saud, including the crown prince, are partly blaming Turkey for the global revulsion, which they say could have been contained if Ankara had played by “regional rules”.

Central to the resentment, according to sources close to the royal court in Riyadh, is a view that the Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan betrayed the Kingdom by disclosing details of the investigation and refusing all overtures from Saudi envoys, including an offer to pay “significant” compensation....

Yuck.
 
Like fuck he has. More likely gone there to reassure them that the adverse publicity will blow over eventually and in the meantime the flow of weaponry will not stop.
Too right our Jeremy not one to risk coming back as a uni-dexter
 
utter shameless twattery from americas liberal #resistance press wailers of 'we are america, we don't do this' yes you fucking do wayne *tapping mans forehead repeatedly with index finger*, yes you fucking do.

Just because the last few occupants of the Skull Throne played the game of not being massively obvious about it.
 
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