"The Line" - Saudi Arabia plans 100 mile long indoor megacity. [Neom]

[Serge Forward]

Never never was a decent programme. Still available on either BBC or Channel 4 (can't remember which) catchup.

 

[8ball]

I’m sure I’ve seen that as a filming location in stuff

Pretty sure it’s where Eggy lives in that Kingsman film.

 

[tim]

There is also the linear Nazi resort of Prora, which is just the sort of place to catch the attention of and inspire someone like MbS

 

[Mumbles274]

After stumbling across a few of this guys videos I found this one and it made me chuckle. A frankly as sound a scientific analysis as you could hope for

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

There is now also "the cube" thingy

 

[Mumbles274]

There is now also "the cube" thingy

Resistence is futile

 

[NoXion]

There is now also "the cube" thingy

I've seen that movie.

 

[BigTom]

Construction begins...

 

[Crispy]

That photo is from last year.
As in, you can see the same diggers and trucks in the same location in this youtube video thumbnail from October '22.

 

[teuchter]

What is the possible endgame for The Line, one of the most viral and controversial architectural projects?

What does the actualisation of this sci-fi city entail? The future of urban living, or something beyond? Photography by Iwan Baan featuring Zero Gravity Urbanism - Principles for a New Livability at the Abbazia di San

www.iconeye.com

Working on The Line a "tricky argument" for studios boycotting Russia says Wolf Prix

Austrian architect Wolf Prix, who designed a section of The Line, hints at the hypocrisy of studios working on the Saudi mega-project and criticises the "main idea of the whole thing" in this exclusive interview.

www.dezeen.com

 

[editor]

Interesting piece here

Let’s talk train logistics for a moment. The anticipated high-speed train that will zip through the city has an agenda as streamlined as its architectural host: make only four stops and cover the entire 170-kilometer stretch of the city in a lightning-fast 20 minutes. Yes, you heard that right—20 minutes. The brilliance behind this lies in the linearity of the city itself. With a straightforward design, the train can achieve optimal speeds, in part because it won’t have to deal with curves or complicated track configurations.

But the minimalism doesn’t stop there. The limited number of stations is another masterstroke. Fewer stops mean fewer slowdowns and fewer accelerations, allowing the train to maintain a high velocity throughout its route. Thus, residents not only get the luxury of fast travel but also benefit from the increased efficiency and energy conservation that comes with maintaining a constant speed.

If its 9 million inhabitants are homogeneously distributed in the city, each [kilometer] will have roughly 53,000 people. If we randomly pick two people from the city, they will be, on average, 57 km [35 miles] apart. Although The Line occupies only 2 percent of the surface of Johannesburg, if we pick two random people in Johannesburg, they are only 33 km [20 miles] apart,” the team explains in their paper.

Keeping the surface fixed, a line is the contiguous urban form that maximises the distance between its inhabitants. In The Line, people are as far away from others as possible.”

When it comes to transport, even with a generous sprinkling of 86 train stations, the paper estimates that nearly half the population would still face a commute longer than an hour. Imagine the irony: a city designed for convenience ends up inconveniencing you.

“Regardless of the number of stations on The Line, at least 47 percent of the population will have a commute longer than 60 min so most people will live too far from their destination.”

However, the critics aren’t just naysayers; they offer a solution—morph The Line into a circle. While it may not have the same poetic ring to it, a circular design would maximize proximity among residents and could potentially reduce commuting times and energy consumption.

In “The Circle,” high-speed trains could become a quaint relic, largely because residents would be able to walk or cycle for most of their trips. Public buses could fill in for any remaining transportation needs. While the construction of “The Circle” might present more hurdles than “The Line,” let’s be honest: if one is already diving into the grandiose endeavor of erecting an awe-inspiring complex in the desert, wouldn’t it be prudent to invest that extra bit of effort to ensure the space is truly habitable?

Saudi Arabia’s The Line: Everything you need to know

Venturing into what may be the epitome of futurism, Saudi Arabia has embarked on a monumental endeavor: to erect a

dataconomy.com

 

[editor]

3 months ago someone managed to find it on Google Maps

This is it. Zoom in and out multiple times till you get the idea. You can see trucks in some of the areas::

28°07'02.9"N 35°05'12.1"E

28°06'50.2"N 35°07'47.6"E (trucks in this one)

28°06'47.1"N 35°08'27.6"E (trucks in this one)

28°06'43.5"N 35°09'08.1"E This appears to be the end

 

[Dogsauce]

Saudi had a history of pretending to start building mega projects, I think they were doing the same sort of shit with a mile high skyscraper about a decade ago, broke some ground but did fuck all else.

 

[prunus]

Interesting piece here

Saudi Arabia’s The Line: Everything you need to know

Venturing into what may be the epitome of futurism, Saudi Arabia has embarked on a monumental endeavor: to erect a

dataconomy.com

If you turned it into a circle, wouldn't it make sense to use all the land circumscribed by the circle as well for efficiency? At which point you end up with...

 

[moochedit]

If you turned it into a circle, wouldn't it make sense to use all the land circumscribed by the circle as well for efficiency? At which point you end up with...

No that's crazy talk!

 

[8ball]

If you turned it into a circle, wouldn't it make sense to use all the land circumscribed by the circle as well for efficiency? At which point you end up with...

The Blob?

 

[DaveCinzano]

Construction begins...

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Foreman, squinting through binoculars whilst juggling a compass and a map, talking into his radio: "Dave, mate, it's no use, you're going to have to redo the footings - I've checked the schematics and you're three foot off.... What?.... Yes, the whole trench, Dave"

 

[Gromit]

I'm pro anything that attempts to counter the madness that is zoning. Commercial, industry and Residential.

Bloody yanks invented zoning back when they decided hey we just use lots and lots of cars with cheap clean convenient petrol to deal with the travel it creates. No problem.

Only lots of problems not just the polluting cars aspect.

 

[NoXion]

I'm pro anything that attempts to counter the madness that is zoning. Commercial, industry and Residential.

Bloody yanks invented zoning back when they decided hey we just use lots and lots of cars with cheap clean convenient petrol to deal with the travel it creates. No problem.

Only lots of problems not just the polluting cars aspect.

The American approach of separating light commercial areas as far away as possible from dwellings as possible is certainly ludicrous, but at the same time a certain degree of zoning makes plenty of sense; it's generally a good idea not to build asbestos factories right next to primary schools.

 

[8ball]

I'm pro anything that attempts to counter the madness that is zoning. Commercial, industry and Residential.

Bloody yanks invented zoning back when they decided hey we just use lots and lots of cars with cheap clean convenient petrol to deal with the travel it creates. No problem.

Only lots of problems not just the polluting cars aspect.

Only thing is, the city planners grew up playing stuff like Sim City where all the game rules reward zoning.

 

[8ball]

...it's generally a good idea not to build asbestos factories right next to primary schools.

Better the other way round. Build primary schools right next to asbestos factories and you save on transport costs because you hardly need to drive the stuff any distance.

 

[Gromit]

The American approach of separating light commercial areas as far away as possible from dwellings as possible is certainly ludicrous, but at the same time a certain degree of zoning makes plenty of sense; it's generally a good idea not to build asbestos factories right next to primary schools.

Like we have much heavy industry or manufacturing left in the west.

 

[likesfish]

Just seen an advert for concert venue at neom not exactly sure whose going to a rave in Saudi????

But special forces the line 2 should be awesome*

* a fucked up Dubai was a pretty good setting for war crimes the video game.
But Zeon looks 1000 x more dystopian

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm pro anything that attempts to counter the madness that is zoning. Commercial, industry and Residential.

Bloody yanks invented zoning back when they decided hey we just use lots and lots of cars with cheap clean convenient petrol to deal with the travel it creates. No problem.

Only lots of problems not just the polluting cars aspect.

as so often with your posts that's a load of auld cobblers. as a swift search of the internet shows, it was a german invention from whence it spread to britain, the united states and so on

 

[Gromit]

Just seen an advert for concert venue at neom not exactly sure whose going to a rave in Saudi????

But special forces the line 2 should be awesome*

* a fucked up Dubai was a pretty good setting for war crimes the video game.
But Zeon looks 1000 x more dystopian

I’ve been to a rave in Abu Dhabi.

Plenty of locals there because
1. it was a new scene
2. Booze allowed there

Plenty of migrant workers there because:
1. A scene they miss
2. Alcohol allowed there.

Suspect it’ll be the same in Dubai.

 

[BigMoaner]

No matter what happens there, still feels like the most basic and mid place on earth. The sort of place Andrew Tate feels is fantastic

 

[Cloo]

No matter what happens there, still feels like the most basic and mid place on earth. The sort of place Andrew Tate feels is fantastic

It sounds like I once heard Dubai described, as something like 'A giant soulless air conditioned mall for premiership footballers to come and buy shoes that cost the same as an NHS hospital's annual budget'

By the way, it also finally happened (as I thought it might) that someone has messaged me on LinkedIn about a possible content job in Neom that's probably related to the Libe. Apparently they are offering megabucks to people to churn our crap about it. But not interested.

 

[extra dry]

That photo is from last year.
As in, you can see the same diggers and trucks in the same location in this youtube video thumbnail from October '22.

my mate well happy, he just got the contract for window cleaner

 

[skyscraper101]

Can someone please tell me why a 'line' and not a regular type city that sort of emanates from a central point outwards in all directions? Is there some sort of advantage to this design which I'm missing?

 

[Crispy]

Can someone please tell me why a 'line' and not a regular type city that sort of emanates from a central point outwards in all directions? Is there some sort of advantage to this design which I'm missing?

No, it's just posturing