Russia mobilises - consequences and reactions

[strung out]

What's the Russian for "fragging"?

It's started

 

[StoneRoad]

Analysis from ISW this morning on mobilisation & conscription ...

Institute for the Study of War

Russian President Vladimir Putin is unlikely to overcome fundamental structural challenges in attempting to mobilize large numbers of Russians to continue his war in Ukraine. The “partial mobilization” he ordered on September 21 will generate additional f

www.understandingwar.org

Basically, it'll not [never] work - and why ; which goes back to decisions made in 2007/8

 

[Dystopiary]

A Russian man has set himself on fire in Ryazan. Apparantly he shouted that he didn't want to participate in the "special operation." AFAIK he survived.

The video in the link is not gory, it shows a man wrapped in a white cover being led away (he's walking).

https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/09...imself-on-fire-to-protest-mobilization-video/

 

[Dystopiary]

Underhand racist horror.



link

 

[bcuster]

Mayhem spreads in Russia:

Neo-Nazi gunman kills 15 during Columbine-inspired Russian school shooting

A neo-Nazi gunman killed at least 15 people — including 11 children — in a Russian school on Monday, while wearing a swastika shirt and celebrating the cowardly Columbine school shooter…

nypost.com

 

[Idris2002]

One possible angle of the big call-up: I presume a lot of the call-up cannon fodder will be used to plug gaps in the frontline units that have recently got a good hiding from the Ukraine side.

That means that some average randomer whose just been pulled out of his armchair will be expected to integrate with troops who have recently experienced some particularly tough events, who may have done some very heavy and brutal things (or worse) and will have seen some heavy and brutal things.

They'll already have the line that "the enemy is everyone who is not us". What happens when they're expected to babysit some average randomer who belongs to that category?

 

[existentialist]

One possible angle of the big call-up: I presume a lot of the call-up cannon fodder will be used to plug gaps in the frontline units that have recently got a good hiding from the Ukraine side.

That means that some average randomer whose just been pulled out of his armchair will be expected to integrate with troops who have recently experienced some particularly tough events, who may have done some very heavy and brutal things (or worse) and will have seen some heavy and brutal things.

They'll already have the line that "the enemy is everyone who is not us". What happens when they're expected to babysit some average randomer who belongs to that category?

I believe the official term of art is "FNG". "Fucking New Guys". Which probably tells us all we need to know about the likely dynamics in play...

 

[frogwoman]

Mayhem spreads in Russia:

Neo-Nazi gunman kills 15 during Columbine-inspired Russian school shooting

A neo-Nazi gunman killed at least 15 people — including 11 children — in a Russian school on Monday, while wearing a swastika shirt and celebrating the cowardly Columbine school shooter…

nypost.com

Don't think this can necessarily be linked to Putin and the war, Russia has had some horrible school shootings over the years. The fucked up militarised atmosphere doesn't help tho

 

[two sheds]

Odds on though that somewhere Russia will tie him in with Ukrainian 'nazis'

 

[Yossarian]

I don't understand why a neo-Nazi who wanted to shoot kids attacked a school instead of signing up with the Wagner Group.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

I don't understand why a neo-Nazi who wanted to shoot kids attacked a school instead of signing up with the Wagner Group.

If Nazis were logical they wouldn’t be Nazis.

 

[mojo pixy]

I don't understand why a neo-Nazi who wanted to shoot kids attacked a school instead of signing up with the Wagner Group.

Kids in school don't shoot back

 

[bcuster]

Don't think this can necessarily be linked to Putin and the war, Russia has had some horrible school shootings over the years. The fucked up militarised atmosphere doesn't help tho

Plus fear and paranoia

 

[Raheem]

Kids in school don't shoot back

Not until we're into year 5 of the special operation.

 

[The39thStep]

Some of the replies to his tweet imply that for some the problem isn't Putin , its that these people are Russians

 

[strung out]

Some of the replies to his tweet imply that for some the problem isn't Putin , its that these people are Russians

View attachment 344633

Thanks for linking the tweet and replies so we can see for ourselves

 

[rekil]

Thanks for linking the tweet and replies so we can see for ourselves

Twitter is full of pricks but you'd have relatively normal people who've found themselves swept along into that mentality, and then there's ukrainians who've suffered personally. Really not necessary to see the replies.

 

[existentialist]

Thanks for linking the tweet and replies so we can see for ourselves

Yer 'tis...

 

[two sheds]

Yer 'tis...

could you not just give a screenshot in case the tweet gets deleted

 

[existentialist]

could you not just give a screenshot in case the tweet gets deleted

I believe that eventuality has already been satisfactorily dealt with upthread

 

[strung out]

I was hoping we might get links to the kind of thing The39thStep seemed to be objecting to rather than just a screenshot of a tweet by someone I've never heard of, expecting us to go off and do the work ourselves.

Thanks for the link existentialist

 

[The39thStep]

Thanks for linking the tweet and replies so we can see for ourselves

I am trying to mix screenshots of Tweets for those that don’t use Twitter with actual tweets mainly if there is a video and pleasing absolutely no one I’m afraid .

 

[strung out]

I am trying to mix screenshots of Tweets for those that don’t use Twitter with actual tweets mainly if there is a video and pleasing absolutely no one I’m afraid .

You don't need to be a Twitter user to view an embedded tweet, and I've just tested it to make sure.

Plus images with no description are shocking for people with visual disabilities, and you can't check the context/veracity of screenshots without manually going to twitter yourself and searching it out.

 

[The39thStep]

You don't need to be a Twitter user to view an embedded tweet, and I've just tested it to make sure.

Plus images with no description are shocking for people with visual disabilities, and you can't check the context/veracity of screenshots without manually going to twitter yourself and searching it out.

Others have different opinions though . I’m easy either way .

 

[kabbes]

My opinion is that 95% of posted tweets are bollocks

 

[Supine]

My opinion is that 95% of posted tweets are bollocks

But if you follow decent people you get 99% good results. It’s all about who you follow - and unfollow when required.

 

[Pickman's model]

I am trying to mix screenshots of Tweets for those that don’t use Twitter with actual tweets mainly if there is a video and pleasing absolutely no one I’m afraid .

Your mistake is trying to please anyone

 

[Cid]

I mean... include both a tweet and a screenshot? Post an embedded link to the tweet instead of the auto embed thing along with the picture? Plenty of options.

 

[maomao]

But if you follow decent people you get 99% good results. It’s all about who you follow - and unfollow when required.

He said posted (as in on here) tweets. If it was Twitter as a whole, 95% would be unbelievably generous. The real figure would be statistically indistinguishable from 100%.

 

[Dystopiary]

I mean... include both a tweet and a screenshot? Post an embedded link to the tweet instead of the auto embed thing along with the picture? Plenty of options.

And alt text for pictures, if possible.