Russell Brand on Revolution
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I was involved in / forced to, do some workplace training about communication/corporate image... One of the tasks we had to do in teams was to arrange about 15 photographs of personalities in order of their credibility, the usual suspects were the re, Cameron, Boris, the queen , Beckham, hodgeson etc. of all the 6 groups of about 10, including mine put brand at the top of the most credible. Maybe worth pointing out/maybe not there are only about 5 Brits on that 30 people.
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ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
To be fair, you might be reminded of The Clash's "White Man in Hammersmith Palais" with regard to Russell Brand, but I'm more reminded of a couple of lines from Crass's "Bloody Revolutions":
"You talk about revolution, well that's fine,
but what are you going to be doing, come the time?"
Because, from what I can make out, Brand wants to be a theorist of revolution, part of the vanguard, rather than someone manning the barricades and risking getting their head smashed in.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
You're not the only one.
I think he's "useful", though, insofar as he may have slightly broadened the ambit of what some people view as acceptable political engagement.
Apart from that, I think his position as a creature of capitalism allows way too much of what he says to be neutralised by those whose interests are served by neutralising such ideas.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I reckon that's true of most "personalities", to be fair, but he does seem to overplay the whole "cheeky but eloquent chappy" schtick to an alarming degree.
I think he's someone that believes all the krishna consciousness woo woo he spouts. He's pals with Icke ffs. I don't think he has any real answers: he lives in hollyweird and has lots of money. He might as well fly around with Kodos and Kang for how seriously he can expect to be taken.
Will this be, he as an artist, etc, is set up as a company?, can't imagine he is a director of any other one.
and yet, he is being taken seriously.
butchersapron
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It's companies set up to take advantage of tax breaks for British film making that labour brought in. I think they're now gone. But it's total unashamed tax avoidance. Loads of rich people suddenly investing in films that were never made and were never intended to be made.
In a very broad sense he is right in what he says regarding a revolution. We do need some kind of very large scale change.
But he doesn't seem to want to do anything and is just an easy target for right wing twats like Shit Staines
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What biscuits you got?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Pah! Thin and too crispy. But bendy. Which is a plus.
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
This was year ago btw and was 'some'.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
So...I decide I wanna join the revolution...and I find that I'm to go along to Purley Way ("Valley Park") 'Vue' and just listen...
...after I've fronted up my £12.50....or....if I'm feeling extra revolutionary....my £14.50 'for the VIP' seats.
Presumably there's some very complex, technical reasons why this 'event' couldn't just be streamed to the people for free?
FFS
...after I've fronted up my £12.50....or....if I'm feeling extra revolutionary....my £14.50 'for the VIP' seats.
Presumably there's some very complex, technical reasons why this 'event' couldn't just be streamed to the people for free?
FFS
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
So...I decide I wanna join the revolution...and I find that I'm to go along to Purley Way ("Valley Park") 'Vue' and just listen...
...after I've fronted up my £12.50....or....if I'm feeling extra revolutionary....my £14.50 'for the VIP' seats.
Presumably there's some very complex, technical reasons why this 'event' couldn't just be streamed to the people for free?
FFS
12.50 gets you freshfaced Owen Jones as well.
The revolution will not be streamed.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I like that this is in conjunction with guardian membership as well. Pushing all my buttons.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I think you're a little confused; it was Jones that went 'up' to Oxford.
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