Russell Brand on Revolution

[phildwyer]

Hmmm Brand, once more,admits his own sexism...but where's the "EVIDENCE"?

That hardly reads like the statement of a sexist to me.

So no evidence then.

 

[brogdale]

That hardly reads like the statement of a sexist to me.

So no evidence then.

If you don't believe him, then fair enough...but perhaps you'd like offer an explanation of Brand's desire to fabricate this aspect of his character?

And...as you're still fixating on "EVIDENCE"D)...are you actually going to offer anything that supports your contention that

I think you've just got into the habit of calling everyone you don't like "sexist."

?

 

[Obnoxiousness]

 

[DotCommunist]

thats a very catholic jesus image there

 

[brogdale]

"She's a shaft grasper"

 

[ViolentPanda]

So, to re-cap, referring to an archaic term intimating some discrepancy between the colour of a woman's head and pubic hair as sexist, somehow proves your assertion that I've "...got into the habit of calling "..everyone you don't like...'sexist'".

You're hoping to convince people of something?
Lol

Surely you're not implying that phil's defence of brand is in reality a defence of himself?

 

[brogdale]

Surely you're not implying that phil's defence of brand is in reality a defence of himself?

 

[ViolentPanda]

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Surely you're not implying that phil's defence of brand is in reality a defence of himself?

What character trait could the two possibly share?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[brogdale]

What character trait could the two possibly share?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Isn't it likely that there would be some common traits* between any two individuals?

* some of those 4 word combinations appear better than others! Line 14's a bit of a shocker.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

You're right about line 14!

The shared trait I had in mind isn't in that list.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[butchersapron]

You're right about line 14!

The shared trait I had in mind isn't in that list.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Is it celebrity? A set of social conditions that produce a meritocratic ego-based self worth that means that nothing is real in your world anymore?

 

[butchersapron]

I've done books you know

 

[brogdale]

I've done books you know

Literally, beer on keyboard.

 

[butchersapron]

Literally, beer on keyboard.

Phil is great. He is trapped. He trapped himself. He's trapped because he doesn't think an accretion of privilege (specialist,economic, cultural, path) has changed him. It has. All he talks about now, no matter what it is is about *phil*. That's why i put him on ignore, crude i may be, but there are other worlds than phil.

 

[J Ed]

Russell's getting a lot of stick on Twitter...




http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-11-05/why-are-people-tweeting-parklife-at-russell-brand

Ignore Russell Brand for a minute (I don't like him anyway), but does anyone else find this trend stupid? I just do not get it, why is it funny? Is it funny because the Blur singer has a regional accent, a vocabulary and the ability to use more than one sentence at a time and so is just like Russell Brand? The message seems to be that people with those characteristics need to stick to entertainment while things like politics are left to our betters preferably those of our betters who stick either to what the establishment consider common sense or a slight variation thereof.

 

[frogwoman]

Ignore Russell Brand for a minute (I don't like him anyway), but does anyone else find this trend stupid? I just do not get it, why is it funny? Is it funny because the Blur singer has a regional accent, a vocabulary and the ability to use more than one sentence at a time and so is just like Russell Brand? The message seems to be that people with those characteristics need to stick to entertainment while things like politics are left to our betters preferably those of our betters who stick either to what the establishment consider common sense or a slight variation thereof.

yes

 

[brogdale]

Ignore Russell Brand for a minute (I don't like him anyway), but does anyone else find this trend stupid? I just do not get it, why is it funny? Is it funny because the Blur singer has a regional accent, a vocabulary and the ability to use more than one sentence at a time and so is just like Russell Brand? The message seems to be that people with those characteristics need to stick to entertainment while things like politics are left to our betters preferably those of our betters who stick either to what the establishment consider common sense or a slight variation thereof.

Though, like most 'comedic' memes, it's rapidly becoming unfunny itself, I believe the original tweet was a satirical observation on the similarity between Brand's cadence of affected arcane vocabulary and that delivered by Phil Daniels in the referenced song. The meme would only have a regionalist meaning to those that believe verbosity is a geographically determined trait.

 

[DotCommunist]

Ignore Russell Brand for a minute (I don't like him anyway), but does anyone else find this trend stupid? I just do not get it, why is it funny? Is it funny because the Blur singer has a regional accent, a vocabulary and the ability to use more than one sentence at a time and so is just like Russell Brand? The message seems to be that people with those characteristics need to stick to entertainment while things like politics are left to our betters preferably those of our betters who stick either to what the establishment consider common sense or a slight variation thereof.

thats not albarn, its him out of Quadrophenia
which also stars a ray winstone, the tax dodger, as a rocker.

 

[nino_savatte]

Because Cheesy believes (as many do) that revolutions need figureheads. The problem with that is it generally implies some kind of top-down "revolutionary" organisation behind the figurehead - a vanguard, if you will - and the imposition of an ideology on the class. Russell calls himself an anarchist, but while he may be anarchic, the politics he's so far enunciated are inchoate. They're neither fish nor fowl.

There are loads of gaps in his political knowledge (I'm not saying mine is perfect) and I think he would do well to read up on some theory. I hear he's referenced Guy Debord in his book but the question is: does he understand Society of the Spectacle? I often find that people just take one or two bits from it and leave the rest and even then, they're misrepresenting it.

 

[phildwyer]

"She's a shaft grasper"

Pish. He's not being sexist there, he's being funny and charming. And the women on that show are totally in love with him too.

Anti-sexist men can't tell the difference between funny/charming and sexist. That's their problem.

So does anyone have any evidence of Brand's alleged sexism?

 

[brogdale]

Pish. He's not being sexist there, he's being funny and charming. And the women on that show are totally in love with him too.

Anti-sexist men can't tell the difference between funny/charming and sexist. That's their problem.

Are you claiming that you can tell the difference between funny/charming and sexist?

You appear to have missed this Russell Brand on Revolution

 

[ViolentPanda]

Are you claiming that you can tell the difference between funny/charming and sexist?

You appear to have missed this Russell Brand on Revolution

Is phil "funny/charming"? I think we should be told!

 

[el-ahrairah]

here's Russell Brand with celebrity misogynist du jour, Julien Blanc.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1w7sfaCcAIdDqT.png:large

 

[el-ahrairah]

Russell looking a bit refreshed there. Hopefully not falling off the wagon Russell

 

[DotCommunist]

oh yeah there was a recent article about him on the Jezebel blog. Apparently his pick up techniques include choking strangers and forcing there heads towards his groin.


http://jezebel.com/julien-blanc-fans-ladies-are-just-mad-because-pickup-a-1655568103

Here at the headquarters of the Global Feminist Conspiracy, we have a lot on our plates: misandry, oppressing men, hating men, attacking men, growing out our leg hair to ever more luxurious lengths, and, of course, tending to our hundreds of cats. But in the past several weeks, all of our efforts have been focused on one man: Julien Blanc, pickup artist and the single greatest threat to our very existence*.

Blanc lives in Los Angeles, where he's a dating coach with a company called Real Social Dynamics. He's successfully taught hundreds of men how to successfully woo hot bitches with tasteful, subtle tactics like choking them and shoving their heads towards his penis, as this video from one of his sojourns to Japan shows:

 

[el-ahrairah]

on this page, we learn that julien's colleague owen is a rapist, and is so pleased with himself that he tells the story as a joke.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/1...ault-women-now-hes-getting-a-lesson-in-karma/

 

[el-ahrairah]

i'm sad that we live in an age where we can use the words pick up technique and sexual assault to mean the same thing.

 

[ManchesterBeth]

There are loads of gaps in his political knowledge (I'm not saying mine is perfect) and I think he would do well to read up on some theory. I hear he's referenced Guy Debord in his book but the question is: does he understand Society of the Spectacle? I often find that people just take one or two bits from it and leave the rest and even then, they're misrepresenting it.

If he read up on some theory his entire edifice would collapse. It's not like the 60s counter-cultural milieu was any less authoritarian than your bog standard Marxist-Leninist currents. The trick is to recognise authority without flinching away from it. But this is a guy who sees Dawkins as a threat. So you know

If the future of revolutionary politics is going to be about reclaiming some sort of lost spiritual totality a la green movement then I'd rather be confined to the gulag... this is worse than the commodification of revolutionary politics by those bloody hippies, I think...

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

here's Russell Brand with celebrity misogynist du jour, Julien Blanc.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1w7sfaCcAIdDqT.png:large

While I dont want to defend Brand particularly I wonder what the context is? random people run up to him all the time to pose for pics