Russell Brand on Revolution
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Well I'd have to read the book to know really.
But I feel like he is reporting on what other people are saying, thinking and doing. With no real background. So he might get it wrong. I'd rather hear directly from those people.
I basically don't trust Brand to give an accurate and representative picture. And if the book is some kind of call to arms, well I don't really trust him to do that either.
Aside from who is specifically involved, are we seeing the roots, at least, of change? Or is this just the 24 hour media society capturing a few malcontents of the sort that have always existed?
Is this the end of the capitalist system...or perhaps the beginning of the end? Or will power just reassert itself and screw us over anew?
If it's the latter then perhaps we are past what might be termed (by me because I think it sounds cool) 'peak toil'.
Is this the end of the capitalist system...or perhaps the beginning of the end? Or will power just reassert itself and screw us over anew?
If it's the latter then perhaps we are past what might be termed (by me because I think it sounds cool) 'peak toil'.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It's def the end of the capitalist system. It has nowhere else to go after this.
Stop being obsessed by other people being obsessed by brand and go play your reality game. That shooty one.
Stop being obsessed by other people being obsessed by brand and go play your reality game. That shooty one.
tbtommyb
Well-Known Member
is there even really still a music scene? Do people still identify with music and form cultural sub-groups from it? is there a modern day equivalent of mods or punks? i'm not sure.
elbows
Well-Known Member
There was some old twitter evidence that some Easeman stuff might feature in the book, but having just used the amazon 'look inside' facility it seems he didn't make the final cut.
I watched a few of Brands youtube videos to get a vague handle on how he deals with the conspiracy theory stuff. Appears to mostly adhere to something I recommended myself not long ago, looking at how governments etc make use of events, rather than getting lost in the dark by claiming to have special evidence that same governments were actually behind the events.
I watched a few of Brands youtube videos to get a vague handle on how he deals with the conspiracy theory stuff. Appears to mostly adhere to something I recommended myself not long ago, looking at how governments etc make use of events, rather than getting lost in the dark by claiming to have special evidence that same governments were actually behind the events.
The Libertines. But they only did two albums (last one was 2004), and the next one, well one can pray...
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
...or advert for book masquerading as light entertainment?
He's certainly learnt some lines, but overall kerching.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Seriously? He could have made 10 times the money he makes on that book by staying in hollywood for the time it took to write and edit it.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Really? That's very precise.
I'm assuming that Brand, his companies and those involved in the marketing and sale of the book will be very happy with the opportunity to sell the book on prime-time tv.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Saying 10 times as much is not precise, it's a commonly accepted term for 'much more'.
He'd make 10 times as much making shit films. He'd make 10 times as much with a tell-all gossip book about hollywood.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
He's written other books, hasn't he?
He's written an autobiography called My booky wook.
tbtommyb
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they get hundreds of thousands of views, so if what he's saying in them is at least better than what people would otherwise read/watch then it's a step up.
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
if you look in the right places.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
Possible RB career trajectories from this point:
1. David Icke
2. Ian Bone
3. Glenda Jackson
1. David Icke
2. Ian Bone
3. Glenda Jackson
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Loads of odd things on YT get hundreds of thousands of views.
tbtommyb
Well-Known Member
yeah but he gets them regularly. And if even a quarter of what he says has some sense behind it that's a big audience of predominantly young, probably not 'traditionally' politicised people. is it not a good thing that he encourages them to question things? He's getting one hundred times the views that the TUC is getting.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
"They" are not a homogenous group who will all act with identical motivations. It also depends on how money the government is trying to get out of them. The recent French experiment with a 75% marginal rate had most staying and some leaving.
"“I find it perverse that the so-called human rights campaigner now acts like a modern-day Mugabe".
He makes it sound as though he thought Mugabe was a figure from history. Is he really so uninformed?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yep; 'on a plate' to the scum press...
New Yorkers have reacted furiously to Russell Brand's admission that he is 'open-minded' about whether the United States was behind the 9/11 attacks.
JOIN THE CLUB:OTHERS WHO ESPOUSE A 9/11 CONSPIRACY
Charlie Sheen
Fellow hellraiser Charlie Sheen argues that hijackers could never have carried out the 9/11 attacks.
He said: 'It seems to me like 19 amateurs with box cutters taking over four commercial airliners and hitting 75 per cent of their targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory. It raises a lot of questions.'
David Icke
Icke believes that the world is being run by a race of child-sacrificing, shape-shifting, reptilian aliens — and thousands of people seem to believe him.
He was forced to flee the spotlight 20 years ago — after he declared on a BBC chat show that he was the son of God.
The TV star from the 1980s, and his followers that the Babylonian Brotherhood runs the world and the Queen and George W Bush are among the race of reptiles and this elite group organised terror attacks like 9/11 and the Oklahoma bombing.
Job done.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Rumours that he might stand for London Mayor (on an 'anti-politics ticket' 
)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...for-mayor-on-antipolitics-ticket-9818784.html
)http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...for-mayor-on-antipolitics-ticket-9818784.html
This. Pretty obviously so.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Presumably..."don't vote" for me?Rumours that he might stand for London Mayor (on an 'anti-politics ticket'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...for-mayor-on-antipolitics-ticket-9818784.html
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Speak for yourself. Have you ever heard of the "Great Man Theory'? Brand is not a revolutionary philosopher.
You're wrong about people not protesting against the bankers. What do you think Occupy is/was all about? Then there were the riots of 2011 and the show trials that followed them. Do you really think Brand is going to lead the 21st century equivalent of the Storming of the Bastille? I can't see it. Besides, revolution doesn't have to be violent.
As for "musical revolution" what do you mean? That sounds rather glib. There have been musicians performing politically engaged material. Sleaford Mods? NxtGen?
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