Scotland. And yes, we went to Ireland on holiday when I was a kid.
President Biden; impact on UK, Ireland, Brexit, trade etc..
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Aladdin
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I have one relative who went to work / live in London in the early 60s. They literally hid their Irishness in the UK because of the discrimination. They and their Irish wife developed British accents and would not talk about Ireland. They returned to Ireland in the 80s and kept up the Brit accent and a slightly better than you attitude. The rest of the family called the wife Mrs Bucket.
krtek a houby
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It is.
The whole Irish American thing confused and bemused for years, but am fine with it now.
Had plenty of mates born in the UK who identify as Jamaican, Indian, etc. And also identify as British, especially if someone asked "and where are you from".
Identity is a unidentifiable thing. It's really down to individuals, contexts, company, family, peers and a thousand others factors.
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Think he's always been consistent on his ties to Ireland, tbf.
Aladdin
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True. But Biden has always maintained his links to his family and Ireland.
surreybrowncap
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23 of the 46 US Presidents have Irish ancestry...
krtek a houby
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In fairness, besides him getting on, there's jet lag and the whirl of the trip to the old country...
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being as he's had several pints of guinness and who knows how much jameson's i think he's doing pretty well
krtek a houby
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That's a lot for a teetotaler
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it's quite a bit for anyone
Aladdin
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probably on the warfarin, knew this auld irish man years back - pat, rip - his doctor said he could only have one bottle of guinness a day because of the warfarin, never specified the size
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And out of those 23, the only Catholics were Kennedy and Biden
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Especially with an election looming. But Joe wouldn't be that cynical, he's Irish through and through (apart from his dad being English) and just loves a Guinness.
Aladdin
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Not surprising.
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when you see christians represented in film or on tv, they're far more often catholic than you might expect, eg the punisher, the exorcist
Does that include Barack O’Bama?
Aladdin
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I should qualify this.
The US had been a British colony. As such Irish Catholics were always going to be on the bottom rung. They were very much lower class barely getting work and detested by other Christians...namely Ulster Presbyterians and Puritans and others. Remember the KKK hated Irish Catholics as much as they hated blacks.
So its not surprising then that JFK a strong civil rights politician became the first Irish Catholic president...not deifying him..he had his flaws...but he did fight for civil rights and for equality for blacks.
surreybrowncap
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Yep!!!
Obama visits family roots in Ireland
President Barack Obama declared solidarity between the United States and economically struggling Ireland with a symbolic gulp of beer and a rousing speech, telling a huge Dublin crowd on Monday: "Your best days are still ahead."
www.reuters.com
Aladdin
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Yeh..they named a petrol station / diner after him in TipperaryYep!!!
Obama visits family roots in Ireland
President Barack Obama declared solidarity between the United States and economically struggling Ireland with a symbolic gulp of beer and a rousing speech, telling a huge Dublin crowd on Monday: "Your best days are still ahead."
The Obama Plaza...its on the motorway to Dublin. Last stop for the loo ...in case anyone is interested.
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this would be the same jfk who was a war hero, founded the green berets, sent us troops ('advisors') into vietnam etc? i really think you're misunderstanding his election if you say that his civil rights stance was the reason, or the main reason, why he was elected. nixon was a strong supporter of civil rights, it's worth remembering while jfk bought the black vote
Aladdin
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I'll say one thing for Biden..on this trip to Ireland..he is not short on energy or good humour. He's very sprightly and seems fit.
He's now in Aras an Uachtarain with Mickey D. And they both look very relaxed and chatty. Sun is shining and he is about to go plant an oak tree
He's now in Aras an Uachtarain with Mickey D. And they both look very relaxed and chatty. Sun is shining and he is about to go plant an oak tree
Aladdin
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I'm not saying that it was a sole reason . But he was very much aware of racism and wanted change...and he was a civil rights campaigner. He was very supportive of Martin Luther King. He announced that major civil rights legislation would be submitted to the Congress to guarantee equal access to public facilities, to end segregation in education, and to provide federal protection of the right to vote.
That was very significant.
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nino_savatte
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Baraic Ó Beamagh, (maybe Ui Beamaigh) surely?
Aladdin
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He's now planted a tree and is talking about his grandfather.
Seems very relaxed and way fitter than Mickey D who is struggling to keep up with Biden.
Ringing the peace bell now..bit of a chat ..Mickey D is off to get the dog...dog is as big as Mickey D.
And they're off to lunch.
Seems very relaxed and way fitter than Mickey D who is struggling to keep up with Biden.
Ringing the peace bell now..bit of a chat ..Mickey D is off to get the dog...dog is as big as Mickey D.
And they're off to lunch.
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