British Empire and Slave Trade Reparations

[Hotel Chocolate]

Knob.

Thank you.

 

[lazythursday]

I'm not even interested in politics and I seem to know more about the subject than the people here. It's a much broader and more nuanced subject than going, "that people good, that people bad".

You know absolutely fuck all

Or you wouldn't be trying to get all nuanced over the scale of violence and death involved.

And it's absolutely not about 'good' and 'bad' people

 

[danny la rouge]

No response is necessary or desirable.

 

[mojo pixy]

I'm not even interested in politics and I seem to know more about the subject than the people here.

That seem is doing some really heavy lifting.

 

[Spymaster]

I have found one statistical ready:
Over the course of an average 79-year lifespan, a white individual contributes a net $220,805 to the system, whereas over the course of an average 75-year lifespan, a black individual receives a net $751,200
Does that count as reparations?

Whaaaaat?

Where did you get this shit from?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Whaaaaat?

Where did you get this shit from?

r/w Americans. All on welfare innit. Or locked up. That's really expensive, adds to their bill.

 

[Hotel Chocolate]

r/w Americans? What's that?

 

[Hotel Chocolate]

You know absolutely fuck all

Or you wouldn't be trying to get all nuanced over the scale of violence and death involved.

And it's absolutely not about 'good' and 'bad' people

I think it is. I think it's all about not wanting to be associated with something bad. it's a petulant narcissistic reaction to our imperfect history or rather your imperfect history seeing as I don't have a single drop of British blood in me. I always find it strange what causes left wingers choose to pick up on and support And what ones they ignore. I'm going to leave you to it, But you are going to make all of our lives a misery.



I can't believe the average age of people on this forum is about 60, the level of debate is like talking to college and university students, All idealism and fanaticism Not really informed. I have had to keep reminding myself I'm talking to 60 year olds and not 20 year olds. Well, I'm done with the politics i'm gonna leave you to it.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

r/w Americans? What's that?

To be accurate, racist r/w Americans.

HTH

 

[editor]

I have found one statistical ready:
Over the course of an average 79-year lifespan, a white individual contributes a net $220,805 to the system, whereas over the course of an average 75-year lifespan, a black individual receives a net $751,200
Does that count as reparations?

You need to back up that claim with a credible source before you're allowed to post anything else. Just to make sure you're not a raging racist, a troll, or both.

 

[likesfish]

Majority of UK descendents did not get anything from the slave trade so expecting uk tax payers to pay cash for something they didn't benefit from to people who weren't directly effected is a bit .
Now debt cancellation and hitting the aristocratic families who did benefit fair enough.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Majority of UK descendents did not get anything from the slave trade...

Except the schools, universities, libraries, hospitals, canals, roads, railways, all the fucking infrastructure you see around you, in every town and city in the land....peace? Oh, shut up!

 

[brogdale]

Majority of UK descendents did not get anything from the slave trade so expecting uk tax payers to pay cash for something they didn't benefit from to people who weren't directly effected is a bit .
Now debt cancellation and hitting the aristocratic families who did benefit fair enough.

Yes, straightforward 'cash' reparation would involve the socialisation of the present-day costs associated with addressing past private benefits. That's why some see contemporary debt cancellation (jubilee) as a more effective model of reparation. Of course, with Governments like Starmer's administering in the interests of financialised capital, that will not happen.

 

[agricola]

Yes, straightforward 'cash' reparation would involve the socialisation of the present-day costs associated with addressing past private benefits. That's why some see contemporary debt cancellation (jubilee) as a more effective model of reparation. Of course, with Governments like Starmer's administering in the interests of financialised capital, that will not happen.

I see the Downing Street wizards have ruled out financial and non financial steps now. They really are fools.

 

[Ax^]

I have found one statistical ready:
Over the course of an average 79-year lifespan, a white individual contributes a net $220,805 to the system, whereas over the course of an average 75-year lifespan, a black individual receives a net $751,200
Does that count as reparations?

what the flying fuck is this bullshit

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I see the Downing Street wizards have ruled out financial and non financial steps now. They really are fools.

Labour are historically very bad at this stuff ("wasn't our empire" attitude). Often worse than the Tories.

So I am not surprised in the least.