PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

[killer b]

BBC at it again, you have to wonder (well I do) why they bother. The unedited footage has been seen and can still be seen by anyone who cares to look, and it's not even hard to find. It's just there.

you can still hear the boo-ing in the second bit of footage? I don't get it - is there some kind of expectation that the footage would be re-broadcast with the exact same volume as the live broadcast regardless what it's being used for?

 

[teqniq]

It's a completely different soundtrack taken from some other part of the timeline the voiceover is not the same and I can't hear any boo-ing.

 

[killer b]

It's a completely different soundtrack taken from some other part of the timeline the voiceover is not the same and I can't hear any boo-ing.

try again - it's just a bit quieter. In the first clip it's live footage with commentators. The second they've used the same footage without the commentary and the volume turned down as a bed for some discussion elsewhere. This is really normal.

 

[killer b]

I don't know who Marina Purkiss is, but she's either a fool, or playing you for one.

 

[cupid_stunt]

try again - it's just a bit quieter. In the first clip it's live footage with commentators. The second they've used the same footage without the commentary and the volume turned down as a bed for some discussion elsewhere. This is really normal.

I agree.

I wouldn't expect them to keep replaying the live coverage, as it's a distraction to the so-called 'story' they are reporting on, the 'Platty Joobs' celebrations.

 

[teqniq]

try again - it's just a bit quieter. In the first clip it's live footage with commentators. The second they've used the same footage without the commentary and the volume turned down as a bed for some discussion elsewhere. This is really normal.

This is a new definition of 'normal' that I have been hitherto unacquainted with and this German news outfit have asked for an explanation:



I have listened to it again with headphones and the boo-ing's not a 'bit' quieter it's a lot.

 

[killer b]

Get off Twitter, it's rotting your brain

 

[cupid_stunt]

There was more cheers than boos, according Secretary of State for Glue Sniffing.



Some other replies...

ITV News’ Chris Ship wrote: “The facts are, and I was there, the boos were very loud indeed. No escaping that. Reporters are there to report. Not make stuff up.”

“Just when it seems you could not embarrass yourself any more, this tweet,” another said.

"It was live Nads - we saw we heard as did the entire world - was even worse on the way out - anyway boos was allowed it was a work event."

"Your sycophancy has robbed you of the little judgment you had; have some dignity."

Tories 2021: "There was no booze" Tories 2022: "There were no boos"

 

[Ax^]

imagine Doris was on the phone


"see what I did to channel 4 edit it!!!"

 

[billy_bob]

Why couldn't one of them do unto Johnson what John Bellingham did to Spencer Perceval?

You know how sometimes you read a post before looking at who posted it and you know with 100% certainty without scrolling back up who it was.

 

[SpackleFrog]

There was more cheers than boos, according Secretary of State for Glue Sniffing.



Some other replies...

ITV News’ Chris Ship wrote: “The facts are, and I was there, the boos were very loud indeed. No escaping that. Reporters are there to report. Not make stuff up.”

“Just when it seems you could not embarrass yourself any more, this tweet,” another said.

"It was live Nads - we saw we heard as did the entire world - was even worse on the way out - anyway boos was allowed it was a work event."

"Your sycophancy has robbed you of the little judgment you had; have some dignity."

Tories 2021: "There was no booze" Tories 2022: "There were no boos"

That booze/boos bit is quite funny.

 

[billy_bob]

Public booing Johnson shows they are fed up with government, says Starmer

Wow, nothing gets past him, does it?

 

[contadino]

Sunday Times reporting that:

67 letters are in,
190 Tories ready to vote against Boris (10 more than necessary)
"Johnson allies accuse no 10 of cavalier attitude"

Could be a good week.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Lee Mack's hilarious Partygate jibe in front of Boris Johnson at Party at the Palace.

Lee Mack couldn't resist making a jibe at Boris Johnson - right in front of his face - on stage at the Platinum Party at the Palace.

As he arrived on stage, Lee welcomed everyone to Buckingham Palace, dubbing it a "party of a lifetime", explaining how lucky everyone was to be able to perform and watch a concert just steps away from Buckingham Palace's gates.

"Finally we can say the words Party and Gate and it be a positive," he said, earning a raucous sound of laughter from the audience who had gathered in The Mall. LINK

Boris Johnson suffers second dig of the night at Palace gig as Stephen Fry takes aim.

"How many local sewage works has our Majesty opened with a bright smile? How many plaques unveiled? How many trees planted, ribbons cut, ships launched?" he added as he noted all the great work Her Majesty had done.

But it was his final comment that left the audience gasping, as he took aim at the Prime Minister.

"How many prime ministers tolerated – for that alone, no admiration is high enough," he concluded, leaving people both at home and those in attendance at the event itself in shock. LINK

Boris Johnson booed again as he arrives for Queen's Platinum Jubilee concert

Prime Minister Boris Johnson also faced a dig about his 'partygate' scandal from comedian Lee Mack who performed at the event along with a host of musical stars

www.mirror.co.uk

Well, I hope he enjoyed the party!

 

[cupid_stunt]

Sunday Times reporting that:

67 letters are in,
190 Tories ready to vote against Boris (10 more than necessary)
"Johnson allies accuse no 10 of cavalier attitude"

Could be a good week.

Here's that article.

Can Boris Johnson weather the coming storm?​

- (paywall busted link)

One rebel, who has been keeping a private tally, believes that up to 67 letters have gone in.

Officers of the 1922 executive have already pencilled in Wednesday as the day for the leadership vote. To oust the prime minister the rebels need to muster 180 votes against Johnson. Another backbench number cruncher has calculated that up to 190 Tory MPs could vote against him.

A former cabinet minister said: “It’s 55 per cent that it happens on Monday or Tuesday. It’s 80 per cent there’s a vote after the two by-elections [on June 23].” Conservative high command is braced for the loss of both Tiverton & Honiton, where the Liberal Democrats are threatening a Tory majority of 24,000, and Wakefield, a “red wall” seat won from Labour in 2019.

Labour’s less-than-stellar performance in the red wall in the local elections has, however, calmed the nerves of Tory MPs in the 2019 intake and has left many hopeful of regaining Wakefield in a general election.

A poll by JL Partners, shatters that narrative. It puts Labour 20 points clear of the Conservatives in Wakefield and shows that voters are blaming Johnson. Tory internal polling also suggests that a “disastrous” loss is on the cards.

And, it's not just the by-elections they are worrying about, but donations too.

In a second worrying development for Johnson, a Conservative donor who has given more than £340,000 to the party since 2010 has demanded the prime minister’s removal. The financier Michael Tory, the founder of Ondra Partners, says that unless Johnson is replaced, the Tories face ten years in the wilderness.

“I was a loyal and longstanding donor but can only resume donating if there is an immediate change of leadership,” he said. “And it has to be now — before it’s too late to avoid a richly deserved obliteration at the next election, followed probably by a decade in opposition.”

The nerves of Conservative MPs were not helped by footage on Friday of Johnson and his wife, Carrie, arriving at St Paul’s Cathedral for the thanksgiving service to mark the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee. A few cheers from the crowd were swiftly drowned out by a wave of booing. Johnson also had to read a lesson from Philippians extolling the virtue of truth, a text chosen for him by the Palace.

Plus, he was booed again at last night's party, with both Mack & Fry putting the boot in as well, there's a lot for the MPs to think about.

If today’s rebels can secure 121 votes, Johnson will have done as badly as Major. If they get 133, he will have done worse than May. If they get 147 he will have done worse than Thatcher. Johnson will not set himself such parameters. “If he wins by one vote he will fight to the death,” one minister said. But a ministerial aide said: “If he wins by one vote he will be mortally damaged.”
If Johnson does badly but refuses to budge, a former cabinet minister said: “It is the job of the chief whip to decide what is in the best interests of the party and present him with a brandy and a revolver. The problem is that Boris would probably drink the brandy and shoot the chief.”

 

[cupid_stunt]

There's two more pieces from the Sunday Times worth reading as well, the first explaining how he could well now lose the vote, or at the very least it will be close and very damaging.

Johnson’s bluster and bravado will be no match for perfidious MPs and a secret ballot​

One MP (another Johnson backer in public) has gone down the list of all 358 of his colleagues and judged what they’ll do in a confidence vote, based on what’s in it for them.

He did a similar exercise during Theresa May’s 2018 confidence vote, and was accurate to within ten. This time he thinks the numbers are so close he can’t call it. The cabinet is a good example. How many of them can Johnson rely on? Is it really in Liz Truss or Rishi Sunak’s interest to keep him in power, and deprive themselves of a shot at the crown? How about Brandon Lewis? Does the Northern Ireland secretary think he’ll go any higher under Johnson?

The greased piglet, as David Cameron calls Boris, still holds one ace: the card of incumbency. As stubborn as all his predecessors, Johnson knows possession is nine tenths of the game, and Tory MPs must weigh up what damage the fresh chaos will do to the party’s already wobbly reputation. What will voters think of this vainglorious act of introspection at the very moment they want problems solved?

Countering that is the argument reinforced by a big date next week. A week today, June 12, marks the exact midpoint of this parliament, when the date by which the next general election must be held is as far away as the last one. What better moment, then, to have a good old shoot-out, with enough time left to bed in a new guy or girl?

The greased piglet.

And, a whole lot of reader letters calling on MPs to do the right thing.

Decent Tories must bring down Boris Johnson​

 

[flypanam]

Theirs reference to the Cameroon Tory faction in that times article. Global tories rally to the banners of spaffcock

 

[billy_bob]

If I were Johnson, I think Cameron's nickname for me being pig-related would be the most worrying aspect of all that.

 

[billy_bob]

Well, I hope he enjoyed the party!

I hope someone explained to him that it was one.

 

[Kaka Tim]

So - do we find out on monday if enough letters are in? Is it all eyes on Graham Brady?

 

[teqniq]

This made me smile:



E2a for those who can't be arsed to click on the link:

 

[Pickman's model]

So - do we find out on monday if enough letters are in? Is it all eyes on Graham Brady?

Everyone knows the office holders of the 1922 committee as the Brady bunch

 

[teuchter]

So - do we find out on monday if enough letters are in? Is it all eyes on Graham Brady?

What's most important is to post up as much speculation as possible before then. Preferably from un-named sources. There's 24 hours or so to fill up a few more pages.

 

[billy_bob]

So - do we find out on monday if enough letters are in? Is it all eyes on Graham Brady?

We should, but honestly, would anyone be surprised if Johnson found a way to rig even that and squirm and bluster his way out of trouble again?

 

[Pickman's model]

We should, but honestly, would anyone be surprised if Johnson found a way to rig even that and squirm and bluster his way out of trouble again?

The greased piglet

 

[Kaka Tim]

 

[Kaka Tim]

What's most important is to post up as much speculation as possible before then. Preferably from un-named sources. There's 24 hours or so to fill up a few more pages.

I disagree - public displays of sneering condescension are far more important. And attractive.

 

[billy_bob]

What's most important is to post up as much speculation as possible before then. Preferably from un-named sources. There's 24 hours or so to fill up a few more pages.

The fact that The Times chooses to speculate about it at such length is politically significant.

 

[teqniq]

This article is free to read right now and it doesn't paint a good picture for Johnson:

The Times & The Sunday Times

News and opinion from The Times & The Sunday Times

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[TopCat]

He is fucked now. I would hope he holds on for a bit though, diminish the tories even more, create a bigger smell about them.