Calamity1971
If Mr Peanut says It's okay, then it is.
A bushel of shagged string is my favourite so far.
PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat
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Calamity1971
If Mr Peanut says It's okay, then it is.
Is Andrew Bridgen sending in a letter old news? Someone just mentioned he's sent one, but can't find anything?
Calamity1971
If Mr Peanut says It's okay, then it is.
philosophical
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Boris Johnson will try to reintroduce hanging next.
teqniq
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No-confidence vote in Boris Johnson ‘likely’ if Tories lose by-elections
I do so hope that many of the vermin are experiencing faecal incontinence right now.
No-confidence vote in Boris Johnson ‘likely’ if Tories lose by-elections
I do so hope that many of the vermin are experiencing faecal incontinence right now.
for FT articles people can't follow a direct link to an article, but if you google the headline you can access the page via google for some reason
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
gruan reckons we may be close - or even past - the threshold for a confidence vote and it could happen as early as next week. Speculative obviously and ive def had the sense that the guardian has been talking up the scale of the rebellion - but things have definitely moved against the rancid sick-bag in the past week.
Johnson’s lurch to the right adds to momentum for leadership vote
Several Tory MPs believe the 54-letter threshold has been reached and that a challenge to PM could be mounted as soon as next weekwww.theguardian.com
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Even the Express is suggesting that Johnson is panicking that the number has reached 54, but as Brady is no fan of Johnson, he'll leave him to sweat this week, and not make his announcement until MPs return to parliament next Monday.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Fourth time?
I only remember one time I thought it looked likely, but this feels much more likely, because so much more shit has been piled on.
Yeah cmon. 
Like last time, he's going no where.
There won't be enough letters. And in the unlikely event there are, he'll win a NCV. With much contrition, back room deals. Talk of a new era, learning from mistakes.
But I say there are only about 35 letters and they won't make even 40.
Like last time, he's going no where.There won't be enough letters. And in the unlikely event there are, he'll win a NCV. With much contrition, back room deals. Talk of a new era, learning from mistakes.
But I say there are only about 35 letters and they won't make even 40.
What is the more shit?
The photos? Showing what everyone was already resigned to or didn't care about to start with.
It's just performative positioning by a few Tory MPS. Well, not fair maybe, I don't doubt many of them can't stand Johnson. But if they've not managed to bestir 54 of them to write a frigging letter by now, I don't see it happening.
That other alleged party thing will go no where either.
you seemed pretty certain it was really happening last time too.
I mean, shit maybe it is. But then again maybe you're being played for clicks again.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
I've got it on good information that he is bringing back white dog poo for the jubilee
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Losing around 25% of the council seats they were defending, predications they will lose both by-elections next month, polls showing they would only keep 3 out of their 88 target seats in a GE, the mess over the changes to the ministerial code, etc., etc. , etc.
Whilst that is unsettling for the Tories. With no obvious widely supported candidate to Johnson, I think most of their MPs are inclined to stick with him whilst desparately trying to steer the conversation on to new ground. They may be boiling frogs but haven't worked out how or where to jump.
With Starmer being so dismal as well, they can afford a bit more time to see how things play out.
Fairweather
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Great front page on tomorrow’s Yorkshire Post.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
last time mps said "wait for the gray report" - now some of them waited and decided to send letters in - plus the photo plus desperate shite like "return to imperial" . the evidence all point to their being more letters going in. You cant say it definitely wont breach the threshold or not.
elbows
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Personally its because I can handle the disappointment of it not happening so I'm not actually torturing myself. Plus:
This always looked like doom for him as far as I'm concerned, and it was just a question of when exactly.
He didnt reach the threshold before because he appealed to people to wait until police and Gray had finished, and some were prepared to give him that time. He's not done anything to impress them since then.
He benefited from a phase of the invasion of Ukraine, the initial shock, press coverage and international solidarity that looks like its now wearing off.
When the press decide a leader is finished its usually only a matter of time.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
A fuckton of coke I hear
Calamity1971
If Mr Peanut says It's okay, then it is.
Followed by a length of rope and a rickety stool.
Calamity1971
If Mr Peanut says It's okay, then it is.
((Wilf ))Anyway, if he doesn't fuck off soon, I'm going to have to go back to the Wagatha Christie thread for me fun.
ruffneck23
front left
Well my MP isnt one of them, here is the reply to my email.
Last email I got from him over a year ago said Johnson was on notice. Il be reminding him of that shortly.
Thank you for your recent email concerning the Prime Minister and the release of the Sue Gray’s report on gatherings which took place in Downing Street during the COVID lockdown period. As you may recall from the previous statements I have made on the ‘Partygate’ revelations, it was always my intention to wait until this report was published before offering a verdict on the events alleged to have transpired from a position of deeper knowledge. I have now had time to read the report. Having done so I am deeply disappointed and angry at some of the incidents detailed, I also find it extremely regrettable that at this difficult time we as a nation remain politically mired over the ‘Partygate’ affair.
Before turning to the report itself, it is important to emphasise that the Prime Minister has now taken the opportunity to stand up in the Commons and correct the record regarding previous comments he had made on possible breaches of COVID rules at Downing Street. I have known Boris Johnson personally for many years and unlike some I do accept his apology as a sincere and honest gesture by a man who had previously not contemplated the fact that those gatherings he was aware of would constitute breaches of the rules. He does appear to me to be badly shaken and humbled by events. I fully accept that others, particularly his political opponents, will draw different conclusions. It will now be for the Privileges Committee to reach a judgement on whether the PM intentionally misled the House. Boris says he didn’t, but if the Committee rules otherwise, he will be facing resignation.
Regardless of what the Committee eventually concludes, the Gray Report itself made for troubling reading which detailed a rotten and wholly inappropriate social culture in Downing Street.
Perhaps more than anything else, I was furious to read accounts of Downing Street staff abusing and throwing insults at security personnel and cleaners. To my mind this constitutes appalling and totally unacceptable behaviour particularly in any professional environment I have ever encountered – be that private business, serving in local government or working as a government minister. I and a number of similarly minded colleagues have made this view clear to the PM directly and I do believe that he concurs. Assurances have been given that all of the so called ‘worst offenders’ have already left Downing Street in the aftermath of earlier revelations - but I fully expect the PM’s Chief of Staff to take further steps and remove anyone else who acted in such a crass and unacceptable way. The unmistakable impression given was of an arrogant, condescending group of staffers looking down on others who were simply trying to do their jobs. This is beyond defence.
Crucially, this report must be seen against the backdrop of the COVID pandemic, which was hugely trying for many of us, especially those working on the frontline, whether in the NHS, emergency services or other key worker roles. Despite the rules being onerous, unpleasant and trying , virtually all stuck to them because we recognised it was the right thing to do in order to stop the spread of the virus and prevent the NHS being overwhelmed. I have spoken with constituents who will forever regret doing so, who will forever feel foolish for doing the right thing and missing saying goodbye to loved ones at the same time staff in Downing Street were partying into the night, again I cannot defend this behaviour.
With all this said, I do feel obliged to draw a distinction between those findings in the report which relate to the conduct of the Prime Minister personally and those which relate to gatherings held and actions taken by comparatively junior groups of Downing Street staff. While the PM is of course wholly responsible for the former, it is quite clear that he had no knowledge of many of the latter. To give just one example, the infamous and abhorrent party held on the eve of the Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh was held when the PM was out of the building and residing at Chequers. The reason I mention this is that much of what Gray detailed in her report was actually a catalogue of offences committed by comparatively junior staff, often civil servants. I would argue that the Prime Minister is not an HR Manager or a Line Manager for these people and it is ludicrous to imagine that he would have the time to act as such. That certain individuals able to do what they did was clearly due to a Downing Street machine unfit for purpose and which I am pleased to say has now been comprehensively reformed with a far more responsible and robust senior management structure being put in place. The PM has paid his FPN and sincerely apologised. He clearly acted stupidly, but equally, he was clearly on the periphery of the Downing Street drinking culture and does not feature at all in many of the incidents detailed by Gray.
Ultimately though, I recognise that for many constituents the distinction I have just drawn will not stand up - and that the bond of trust with the PM and even with the Conservative Party as a whole has been ruptured. I am painfully aware of how this episode has diminished the standing of all of us in the Conservative Party who have tried our best to represent you to the best of our ability through extremely challenging times. My team and I will continue to work hard to work as hard as possible on behalf of all Mole Valley constituents, as we always have.
My overriding priority for now is to support - and push - the Government as it moves to tackle the plethora of huge issues we are facing. The war in Ukraine is entering a critical phase as the Russians appear to be gaining ground through their offensive in the Donbass; the Chancellor has just unveiled a comprehensive plan to address the cost of living crisis and the work on levelling up across the country is ongoing.
A leadership contest now would compromise the work the Government is doing in all these areas and paralyse the Government action when we can least afford it. My judgement is that the Prime Minister, diminished as he is in the eyes of many, remains the best person to lead our collective response to these challenges and still has more to offer. It is only with the best interests of the county in mind, not those of the Prime Minister personally, that I have reached this decision. I regard the PM continuing in post as being a less disruptive and detrimental outcome than his departure at this moment - although he is clearly down to his final yellow card.
We now await the report of the Privileges Committee.
Kind regards
Sir Paul Beresford
Before turning to the report itself, it is important to emphasise that the Prime Minister has now taken the opportunity to stand up in the Commons and correct the record regarding previous comments he had made on possible breaches of COVID rules at Downing Street. I have known Boris Johnson personally for many years and unlike some I do accept his apology as a sincere and honest gesture by a man who had previously not contemplated the fact that those gatherings he was aware of would constitute breaches of the rules. He does appear to me to be badly shaken and humbled by events. I fully accept that others, particularly his political opponents, will draw different conclusions. It will now be for the Privileges Committee to reach a judgement on whether the PM intentionally misled the House. Boris says he didn’t, but if the Committee rules otherwise, he will be facing resignation.
Regardless of what the Committee eventually concludes, the Gray Report itself made for troubling reading which detailed a rotten and wholly inappropriate social culture in Downing Street.
Perhaps more than anything else, I was furious to read accounts of Downing Street staff abusing and throwing insults at security personnel and cleaners. To my mind this constitutes appalling and totally unacceptable behaviour particularly in any professional environment I have ever encountered – be that private business, serving in local government or working as a government minister. I and a number of similarly minded colleagues have made this view clear to the PM directly and I do believe that he concurs. Assurances have been given that all of the so called ‘worst offenders’ have already left Downing Street in the aftermath of earlier revelations - but I fully expect the PM’s Chief of Staff to take further steps and remove anyone else who acted in such a crass and unacceptable way. The unmistakable impression given was of an arrogant, condescending group of staffers looking down on others who were simply trying to do their jobs. This is beyond defence.
Crucially, this report must be seen against the backdrop of the COVID pandemic, which was hugely trying for many of us, especially those working on the frontline, whether in the NHS, emergency services or other key worker roles. Despite the rules being onerous, unpleasant and trying , virtually all stuck to them because we recognised it was the right thing to do in order to stop the spread of the virus and prevent the NHS being overwhelmed. I have spoken with constituents who will forever regret doing so, who will forever feel foolish for doing the right thing and missing saying goodbye to loved ones at the same time staff in Downing Street were partying into the night, again I cannot defend this behaviour.
With all this said, I do feel obliged to draw a distinction between those findings in the report which relate to the conduct of the Prime Minister personally and those which relate to gatherings held and actions taken by comparatively junior groups of Downing Street staff. While the PM is of course wholly responsible for the former, it is quite clear that he had no knowledge of many of the latter. To give just one example, the infamous and abhorrent party held on the eve of the Funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh was held when the PM was out of the building and residing at Chequers. The reason I mention this is that much of what Gray detailed in her report was actually a catalogue of offences committed by comparatively junior staff, often civil servants. I would argue that the Prime Minister is not an HR Manager or a Line Manager for these people and it is ludicrous to imagine that he would have the time to act as such. That certain individuals able to do what they did was clearly due to a Downing Street machine unfit for purpose and which I am pleased to say has now been comprehensively reformed with a far more responsible and robust senior management structure being put in place. The PM has paid his FPN and sincerely apologised. He clearly acted stupidly, but equally, he was clearly on the periphery of the Downing Street drinking culture and does not feature at all in many of the incidents detailed by Gray.
Ultimately though, I recognise that for many constituents the distinction I have just drawn will not stand up - and that the bond of trust with the PM and even with the Conservative Party as a whole has been ruptured. I am painfully aware of how this episode has diminished the standing of all of us in the Conservative Party who have tried our best to represent you to the best of our ability through extremely challenging times. My team and I will continue to work hard to work as hard as possible on behalf of all Mole Valley constituents, as we always have.
My overriding priority for now is to support - and push - the Government as it moves to tackle the plethora of huge issues we are facing. The war in Ukraine is entering a critical phase as the Russians appear to be gaining ground through their offensive in the Donbass; the Chancellor has just unveiled a comprehensive plan to address the cost of living crisis and the work on levelling up across the country is ongoing.
A leadership contest now would compromise the work the Government is doing in all these areas and paralyse the Government action when we can least afford it. My judgement is that the Prime Minister, diminished as he is in the eyes of many, remains the best person to lead our collective response to these challenges and still has more to offer. It is only with the best interests of the county in mind, not those of the Prime Minister personally, that I have reached this decision. I regard the PM continuing in post as being a less disruptive and detrimental outcome than his departure at this moment - although he is clearly down to his final yellow card.
We now await the report of the Privileges Committee.
Kind regards
Sir Paul Beresford
Last email I got from him over a year ago said Johnson was on notice. Il be reminding him of that shortly.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Personally I'll continue to enjoy the media circus, it's very entertaining and damaging to Johnson's brand, and I actually hope the numbers of letters don't reach 54 at this point, because the odds are he would win the vote by a large majority.
If I was a Tory MP, I would be waiting on next month's by-elections, I would be assuming that Wakefield would be lost to Labour, as it's a traditional Labour seat and the Tory majority in 2019 was just over 3k. But, Tiverton & Honiton is a very different beast, having been Tory since it was formed in 1997 and Parish had a massive majority of over 24k, if that goes it can't be brushed over as the result of mid-term blues. Even if they manage to hold it but with only a tiny majority, it would be a clear sign that Johnson is no longer an electoral asset, so someone else, indeed almost anyone else, could be better to take them into the next GE.
If the vote of no confidence came at that point, I think a lot less MPs would be willing to support Johnson, he could still win it, but with a lower majority than if it was held next week, causing even more trouble.
Having said that, I still think there's a chance that the magic 54 could be hit 'accidently' soon, I say 'accidently' as most media outlets have been reporting this isn't an organised rebellion, making it impossible for anyone to judge. According to the Sky News spreadsheet the number of MPs that have publicly questioned the PM's future since he was fined has hit 39, not all have publicly said they have put letters in, most reports suggest over 20 and up to 26 have publicly stated they have.
When May had to face a vote of no confidence only half of the MPs that had submitted letters had actually publicly announced they had done so.
If I was a Tory MP, I would be waiting on next month's by-elections, I would be assuming that Wakefield would be lost to Labour, as it's a traditional Labour seat and the Tory majority in 2019 was just over 3k. But, Tiverton & Honiton is a very different beast, having been Tory since it was formed in 1997 and Parish had a massive majority of over 24k, if that goes it can't be brushed over as the result of mid-term blues. Even if they manage to hold it but with only a tiny majority, it would be a clear sign that Johnson is no longer an electoral asset, so someone else, indeed almost anyone else, could be better to take them into the next GE.
If the vote of no confidence came at that point, I think a lot less MPs would be willing to support Johnson, he could still win it, but with a lower majority than if it was held next week, causing even more trouble.
Having said that, I still think there's a chance that the magic 54 could be hit 'accidently' soon, I say 'accidently' as most media outlets have been reporting this isn't an organised rebellion, making it impossible for anyone to judge. According to the Sky News spreadsheet the number of MPs that have publicly questioned the PM's future since he was fined has hit 39, not all have publicly said they have put letters in, most reports suggest over 20 and up to 26 have publicly stated they have.
When May had to face a vote of no confidence only half of the MPs that had submitted letters had actually publicly announced they had done so.
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