PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

[killer b]

That's the obvious one, were you allowed to bring your wife and kid to work that week?

they live where he works. no defence of the party, but her being in the picture isn't the killer blow you guys seem to think it is. she's in the garden of the house she lives in on a summer day. of course she is.

 

[Smangus]

She married a piece of shit so shouldn't be surprised when a load of it sticks to her. Tough.

 

[Pickman's model]

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[cupid_stunt]

she's in the garden of the house next door to where she lives i think you'll find.

rishi sunak lives in number 10.
carrie johnson lives in number 11.

it's been in the news more than once and i've posted about it on this thread before, eg this from 12 january. so it's not like it's a great secret

Both there's just one garden for numbers 10 & 11.

The garden of 10 and 11 Downing Street is an L-shaped garden, 1⁄2 acre (0.2 ha) in size, behind the official residences of the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, 10 and 11 Downing Street in the Whitehall district of the City of Westminster in central London.

Garden of 10 and 11 Downing Street - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[existentialist]

Both there's just one garden for numbers 10 & 11.

It's a hard life, if you don't weaken.

 

[Pickman's model]

Both there's just one garden for numbers 10 & 11.

which is why i edited my post on checking. thank you for rendering that redundant.

 

[cupid_stunt]

which is why i edited my post on checking. thank you for rendering that redundant.

Sorry, hadn't noticed you have edited it, clearly not fast enough, old chap.

 

[ska invita]

So most of those involved probably do genuinely regard what's happening there as a work event and would see little or nothing wrong with it, even in the context of Covid. And that's not in any way to excuse it, rather to point out that the entitlement and disconnect goes way beyond not following the Covid rules which they expect everyone else to follow.

i dont think its entitled to have 'parties' with work, socialising and 'networking' are important in lots of areas of life. its purtianical to criticise that, in fact i wish more workplaces had it. my eldery relatives who lived under soviet-era Communism often brought in cakes and booze (literally) to their state paid jobs! sounds good to me.

this is all purely about breaking covid rules and nothing else

 

[cupid_stunt]

this is all purely about breaking covid rules and nothing else

And the lying about it, don't forget the lying.

 

[andysays]

i dont think its entitled to have 'parties' with work, socialising and 'networking' are important in lots of areas of life. its purtianical to criticise that, in fact i wish more workplaces had it. my eldery relatives who lived under soviet-era Communism often brought in cakes and booze (literally) to their state paid jobs! sounds good to me.

this is all purely about breaking covid rules and nothing else

It's certainly entitled to do it to the extent it appears to be happening when most people aren't permitted to do it at all.

I also think that excusing it as socialising and 'networking' opportunities, which again most people don't have the opportunity to do during their working hours and with booze etc provided, is to ignore how this is a clear case of one rule from them and another for us.

You can see it as all purely about breaking covid rules and nothing else, but I think you're missing the wider picture.

 

[bimble]

Fwiw, I suspect Carrie has been involved in some decisions around appointments, in particular. More than any recent partner of a PM I can think of, she has the background for that, as some kind of tory spin doctor/comms person. I'm not overly fussed about whether it's her or johnson making the decisions, they are enemies and responsible for 10s of thousands of deaths, preceded by a decade of austerity and the rest. That's the problem.

If she has some kind of role, maybe that does reflect johnson's laziness and inability to do detail, so there's a plausibility to some of it. But it's a whole other thing to tell that as a Lady Macbeth story or some kind of sexist shite about a 'scheming' wife. Whatever the truth about their political relationship, the problem is 100% with the twin monsters that are boris johnson and the tory party.

Yep. The focus on her is doing absolutely nothing apart from letting the Conservative party & the pm himself off the hook, surprising to see so much of it on here.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Curtice, the polling guru, thinks Johnson is toast, surely MPs can see the problem with their own voters seeing him as the shit he is?

In an interview with The Independent, Sir John pointed to the latest Opinium poll showing that 75 per cent of 2019 Conservative voters think Mr Johnson broke his own Covid rules – and 61 per cent of Tory voters do not believe he is telling the truth about parties.

“A high proportion of Tory voters believe he broke the rules and they don’t believe what he is saying – this is a real problem for him,” said Sir John. “The question becomes, what will they believe him on in future?”

The expert added: “Political parties can recover from electoral trouble. But leaders rarely recover, once a leader becomes very unpopular. It’s very difficult to reverse.

“So far, Boris Johnson is fighting a losing battle in persuading people that he did not break the rules … The art of rhetoric, at which he is brilliant, may not be sufficient to enable him to restore his reputation.”

Sir John said Mr Johnson’s appeal with voters had been badly damaged not only by stories about parties at No 10, but the PM’s own explanation that he thought he was attending a “work event” at the “bring your own booze” garden gathering in May 2020.

“We know from the Barnard Castle episode that people regard rule-breakers during a public health crisis with a great deal of moral disapprobation. The phrase ‘work event’ has entered the lexicon in the same way Barnard Castle did,” the polling expert said.

The most recent surveys by YouGov, Savanta ComRes and Ipsos MORI put Labour’s lead at between six and nine points respectively. Sir John said polling shows that the Tory vote in red wall seats has “plummeted by exactly the same proportion” as the rest of the country.

Boris Johnson ‘fighting losing battle’ says polling guru Curtice

Exclusive: PMs ‘rarely recover’ from such dramatic damage to popularity, says Sir John Curtice

www.independent.co.uk

 

[ska invita]

It's certainly entitled to do it to the extent it appears to be happening when most people aren't permitted to do it at all.

I also think that excusing it as socialising and 'networking' opportunities, which again most people don't have the opportunity to do during their working hours and with booze etc provided, is to ignore how this is a clear case of one rule from them and another for us.

You can see it as all purely about breaking covid rules and nothing else, but I think you're missing the wider picture.

i see where you are coming from
sounds like drink-o-clock culture came in particularly strong with Johnson
i dont think its "entitled" though, there's lots of this kind of thing particularly in work that demands more than a 9-5 day.

my impression from Xmas Party threads is even when theres a work party once a year people run from it!

 

[Dom Traynor]

i dont think its entitled to have 'parties' with work, socialising and 'networking' are important in lots of areas of life. its purtianical to criticise that, in fact i wish more workplaces had it. my eldery relatives who lived under soviet-era Communism often brought in cakes and booze (literally) to their state paid jobs! sounds good to me.

this is all purely about breaking covid rules and nothing else

Indeed my partner comes into the office sometimes when relevant events occur. She's even brought cakes in. Not during CoViD restrictions though.

 

[Pickman's model]

Im not impressed with the Carrie bashing tbh, it's not surprising at all though.

But if Carrie does not hold a role in government it does beg the question of whether this was a 'work event' or not?

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let me explain it for you graphically, as boris johnson sees it

 

[cupid_stunt]

 

[existentialist]

i dont think its entitled to have 'parties' with work, socialising and 'networking' are important in lots of areas of life. its purtianical to criticise that, in fact i wish more workplaces had it. my eldery relatives who lived under soviet-era Communism often brought in cakes and booze (literally) to their state paid jobs! sounds good to me.

this is all purely about breaking covid rules and nothing else

It's about lying. I strongly suspect that if Johnson's reaction to the first revelations had been to make a clean breast of it, a) most of the other parties wouldn't have come to light, and b) it'd be history by now.

 

[bluescreen]

It's about lying. I strongly suspect that if Johnson's reaction to the first revelations had been to make a clean breast of it, a) most of the other parties wouldn't have come to light, and b) it'd be history by now.

I'm sure you're right. It's not as if there isn't plenty of deep shit to be focusing on anyway (and Johnson's lying and fantasising has been a constant throughout his career). It is a bit like the Clinton impeachment, and I'm trying to remember what that distracted everyone from.

 

[Spandex]

It's about lying. I strongly suspect that if Johnson's reaction to the first revelations had been to make a clean breast of it, a) most of the other parties wouldn't have come to light, and b) it'd be history by now.

It's the lying - deliberately and obviously misleading Parliament - that has him in trouble in the Westminster bibble, but it's the parties that have prompted fury in the rest of the country and will hit his/the Tories' poll ratings.

He unprecedentedly outlawed social gatherings and then went and had loads of social gatherings of his own. That's what makes people angry. While there's been loads of sad stories of people missing loved ones funerals, everyone who even half followed the rules has something they missed out on. I'm sure we could all list the things that didn't happen for us during lockdowns, while Johnson and his circle just carried on.

So it's both, in different ways.

And the fucking slippery shitbag is still there

 

[Elpenor]

Guto Harri apparently - says the BBC - arrived at Downing St laden with healthy snacks and water for the no 10 staff.

Recalls the first appearance of Steve Fleming in The Thick of It

 

[Pickman's model]

Guto Harri apparently - says the BBC - arrived at Downing St laden with healthy snacks and water for the no 10 staff.

Recalls the first appearance of Steve Fleming in The Thick of It

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they don't want healthy snacks and water, they want pizzas and booze. guto harri's only been in post a matter of hours and already he's alienated everyone else in the building

 

[Sue]

they don't want healthy snacks and water, they want pizzas and booze. guto harri's only been in post a matter of hours and already he's alienated everyone else in the building

TBF, I want pizzas and booze. (Caffeine also has its place mind.)

 

[not-bono-ever]

Saved from Corbynism. The utter cunt

 

[bluescreen]

Guto Harri has given an interview to Welsh language golwg, revealing that Johnson is channelling Gloria Gaynor.

 

[Pickman's model]

Saved from Corbynism. The utter cunt

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tbh corbynism wouldn't have been as bad as what we've had

 

[Pickman's model]

Guto Harri has given an interview to Welsh language golwg, revealing that Johnson is channelling Gloria Gaynor.

if that's gh in the picture he looks like a poundshop david mitchell figurine

 

[not-bono-ever]

I’m late to the game here but has the peerage fir not voting him out bribe issue popped up yet here? Will delete if already done

 

[Artaxerxes]

"He's not a clown, but he did a little comedy routine for me to show how tough he was."

 

[cupid_stunt]

"He's not a clown, but he did a little comedy routine for me to show how tough he was."

This is a better translation IMO - Boris Johnson is “not a complete clown” - just 99%.

Boris Johnson ‘not a complete clown’, says his new press chief

Guto Harri also says PM initiated rendition of Gloria Gaynor’s I Will Survive when the two men met last week

www.theguardian.com

 

[little_legs]

Maybe a slight whiff. There's a much bigger stench coming from the shit she's covered herself in all week that covers it up though.